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Wednesday, May 23, 2012

I just got tenure!!!

Because of the nature of my work and the field within which I do it, I can't really mention the name of my company or specifically what I do. Aside from whatever security concerns might be at play, I also don't want to end up getting Dooced.

Suffice it to say I do international marketing and after sales support for a large government-run defense and aerospace company. Trust me, it sounds far sexier than it is.

Unlike the academic world where tenure is common (and those passed over for tenure are often exiled/sidelined), in most other fields, the very idea of tenure – or any kind of permanence/security in employment – is nearly unheard of.

One of the quirks of working for a government-owned firm here is that each year, the senior management and the leadership of the workers union agree to grant a small number of tenured positions.

Many people never get tenure, and not getting tenure is not seen as any sort of failing. And to be honest, other than being well thought of by your managers and your peers, I haven't the faintest idea what criteria are used to decide who gets tenure and who doesn't.

I was recently called into our General Manager's office. When I arrived, my boss, the head of the Worker's Union and the head of Human Resources were already there. You could have knocked me over with a feather when they handed me a certificate which stated that I was now a tenured (permanent) employee.

In other words, unless I kill someone or burn the place down, I have a job for as long as I want it... or until I reach the mandatory retirement age... whichever comes first.

Making aliyah is full of question marks and uncertainty.  Aside from the adjustments to a new culture, learning a new language, finding the right place for ones family to live, and a thousand other things... employment - the ability to put food on the table and pay the mortgage - looms large on the list of things that keep Olim (immigrants) up at night.

I never dreamed I'd have this kind of job security; not in the U.S., and certainly not here in Israel.  But now that I have it, it is like a dream come true!

Posted by David Bogner on May 23, 2012 | Permalink


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Mazal tov!

Posted by: SaraK | May 23, 2012 11:48:27 AM

I can think of half a dozen good commercial and political reasons why you should be getting tenure, but who cares? You've been blessed with employment security, something never to be sniffed at, particularly in these days of universal fiscal and government insecurity.

Mazal tov!

Posted by: chairwoman | May 23, 2012 12:15:48 PM

Mazal tov hardly seems to convey it, but MAZAL TOV! :)

Posted by: Jennifer | May 23, 2012 12:42:46 PM


Posted by: Maureen | May 23, 2012 12:57:42 PM

Congrats/מזל טוב

Posted by: Aharon | May 23, 2012 3:41:31 PM


Posted by: dave | May 23, 2012 5:27:06 PM

Thought you might like this story


Posted by: Joe | May 23, 2012 5:36:28 PM


Posted by: Quietusleo | May 23, 2012 7:21:20 PM

I guess this means you can take now take long lunches and give crappy customer service. Ah, the joys of socialism. What's next? The position is passed from father to son, just like the life guards in Tel Aviv.

Ben Gurion University gives tenure to non academic staff. A secretary with tenure? Yep. And she she barely shows up two days a week and try getting her to do something for you. Why should she? She has life long employment!

Sorry to rain on the parade. I'm sure you are a great worker so no offense but what an incredibly stupid system. Just make sure not to burn the place down.

Posted by: Clara | May 23, 2012 7:58:39 PM

!!!מזל טוב

Posted by: Alisha | May 23, 2012 8:03:26 PM

Mazal Tov! Thanks for sharing your good news. You will, of course, be taking your lovely wife out for a celebratory dinner : )

Posted by: Rachel | May 23, 2012 8:38:22 PM

Congrats, David. You have earned this security with all that you've gone thru in your employment history (through no fault of your own)... enjoy! And it's a shame that Clara has to rain on your joy with her negativity - but she must not be aware of that old saying "If you have nothing nice to say, keep your mouth shut."

Posted by: Val | May 23, 2012 8:40:35 PM

Does that mean you're buying the next fleishig meal? MAZEL TOV! Awesome news.

Posted by: Azriel | May 23, 2012 10:47:01 PM

Wonderful news, David! Congratulations!

Posted by: Rahel | May 23, 2012 11:36:05 PM

Congrats! This means that you now have to keep this blog going forever.

Posted by: Yaron | May 23, 2012 11:51:13 PM

Mazal Tov!

Posted by: Mark | May 24, 2012 12:37:43 AM

Congrats, David

Posted by: Polish auto | May 24, 2012 12:41:57 AM

Mazal tov!

Posted by: Rivkah | May 24, 2012 3:21:43 AM

Delighted to hear your good news, מזל טוב
לך מחיל לחיל

Posted by: yaffa glass | May 24, 2012 5:00:50 AM

Congratulations from a co-worker. It took me 5 years and that was considered normal.

Posted by: Caroline | May 24, 2012 8:03:05 AM

Mazal Tov! Perhaps I will be able to buy you a drink in order to celebrate... 'cause we're coming over to the Eretz this summer. (Hot much?)

Posted by: Elisson | May 24, 2012 4:34:19 PM

That's really great! Congrats to you and Chag Sameach. Go have a sip of that kahlua for me....

Posted by: Baila | May 24, 2012 7:26:51 PM

I love good news - congratulations and mazal tov!

Posted by: Ellis | May 24, 2012 10:53:22 PM

Mazal Tov!

Posted by: shmiel | May 25, 2012 3:11:44 PM

Congratulations, Dave. Very well done. :)

Posted by: Karl | May 25, 2012 5:57:15 PM

David: Mazel tov!

Clara: What you describe is not a failure of the concept of tenure so much as it is a failure of those in power to live up to their obligation to manage. Tenure is usual in my world -- I'm a professional orchestral musician and have served on university faculties -- and I believe it's a good thing. Taking away someone's livelihood should, in my opinion, be more difficult than it usually is where an at-will employee is concerned. Everywhere I've ever worked there has been a procedure in place to remove a tenured employee for poor performance, but it requires effort on the part of those in management. Sure, the secretary should take responsibility for her own poor attendance and attitude and work ethic, but management are responsible for leaving her there despite that, and obvious laziness at the top often trickles down to the rank and file, seen as license to do likewise.

Posted by: bratschegirl | May 25, 2012 8:53:52 PM

Congrats Dave! Although you don`t speak Hebrew like a sabra, your American backround has probably contributed to your success in customer sales and support.

Posted by: ED | May 25, 2012 10:56:37 PM

Mazel tov! Enjoy the well-earned job security and peace of mind.

Posted by: Chantal | May 28, 2012 7:55:31 PM

mazal tov
tho as a scanned rather than read it, it at first read that you got manure --kind of slipped on the te vs the ma --tho in retrospect its not my fault as i was driving at the time and the screen on my android isnt as amazing as those retina displays apple takes so much pride in

Posted by: S ash | May 30, 2012 2:48:56 AM

Awesome news! Mazal tov!

Posted by: psachya | May 30, 2012 6:36:26 AM

Mazal tov, David! Based on all your crazy travelling, and the very rare time you've alluded to your job, I've gotten the faintest hint that this is very well deserved! Congratulations :)

Now. Don't burn down the building. (Chas v'Shalom, ptuptuptu)

Posted by: Alissa | Jun 4, 2012 7:28:38 PM

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