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Thursday, September 02, 2010

Instant proof... no waiting!

Usually when commenters and I disagree over matters of opinion (e.g. over how the Israeli or international public might react under some set of hypothetical circumstances), we are left to agree to disagree. 

After all, opinion is just that, and arguments surrounding hypothetical scenarios are maddeningly difficult to prove or disprove.

So when several of the commenters on yesterday's post hypothesized about what the public reaction might have been if the terror victims had been from an Israeli community inside the green line, we all knew that the discussion would likely remain purely academic.

However, the Palis are nothing if not helpful.  Just a day after the original terror attack, our 'partners in peace' were nice enough to move the discussion out of the hypothetical realm and into that of reality.

Yesterday a car carrying a husband and wife - Jewish residents of a Jordan Valley community insidethe green line - came under fire from a passing car between Rimonim and Kochav HaShachar in the Binyamin region (located outsidethe green line). 

The husband (who was driving) was wounded by the gunfire and lost control of the car.  His wife was injured in the subsequent roll-over/crash caused by attack.

As if made to order as a test case to advance our little academic discussion, we now have a real-life case of car travelling outside the green line (i.e. where it had no business being, according to some opinions), but the injured parties are residents of a community inside (i.e. on the 'good/kosher' side of) the green line.

So far I can't see any real difference in the reaction from the Israeli left or from media outlets abroad (effectively disproving my hypothesis that attacking settlers was the best formula for avoiding widespread condemnation).  The reaction seems to be almost universal ennui.

Of course it may be that the location of the attack (outside the green line in 'occupied territory'... boo hiss!) is the key to staying under the world's revulsion threshold (which actually supports at least part of my thesis) rather than where the victims are from.

Isn't it nice that we live in such accommodating times that we seldom have long to wait for our theories to be tested in real life (or death)?


Posted by David Bogner on September 2, 2010 | Permalink


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Yes, the terrorists are so very accommodating! Could you make your next theory to be tested something like "If Nasrallah were standing in a room where a 'work accident' occurred, would he be killed or would Allah save him?" Thanks :)

Posted by: Yaeli | Sep 2, 2010 12:28:53 PM

Remind me to only hypothesize about good stuff. Or about things like Yaeli's suggestion.

Posted by: Alissa | Sep 2, 2010 4:52:21 PM

Love Yaeli's suggestion

Posted by: SaraK | Sep 2, 2010 8:43:17 PM

The whole situation is gruesome as so many folks completely expected a bout of terrorism as the talks began. That's part of the reason for the blasé response now that it actually is occurring. The other part is the usual reason that ... it's only Jews being murdered.

Posted by: Mark | Sep 2, 2010 11:51:12 PM

I think the typical response is this: Nu?

Of course, we expect them to kill us. Why? Because they remind us on a daily basis in both word and deed. Not a great setting for peace talks, when one side has refused for one second to cease hostilities. No wonder they believe they are winning something. It looks like capitulation to them.

The only double standard involved that bothers me is this. If we quite peace talks because of the violence, we would be blamed for walking away. If we responded with an incursion into Jenin to locate a cell planning a similar attack, and somebody was killed in the shootout, Abu Mazen would walk away, and then, the Jews would be blamed. We have literally nothing to win from engaging in more "peace" talks that will result ultimately in more dead Jews and not one compromise from the Palestinians regarding the 3 "no" position immediately after the 67 war.

Posted by: Jacob (We Are Government) | Sep 3, 2010 6:46:20 PM

does it matter from where they are? 4 murdered, one is pragnant woman. it is act of hatred. it is terrible. it is painful. is there any other opinion can be in the mind of normal humanbeing?

Posted by: [email protected] | Sep 5, 2010 7:22:18 PM

Hey Trepp, totally off topic and I can't find your email address after attempting to clear up some of the 20,000 emails in gmail (mass delete!!). I need to move olehgirl to a new server asap. Got any suggestions? Your blog always seems so nice and stable and always up...can you let me know who you host with. yaeli.kaynan at that g mail place Thanks!!!!

Posted by: Yaeli | Sep 6, 2010 11:52:40 AM

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