Comments on Getting down off the soapbox and mingling with the crowdTypePad2009-06-30T10:03:22ZDavid Bognerhttps://www.treppenwitz.com/tag:typepad.com,2003:https://www.treppenwitz.com/2009/06/taking-treppenwitz-on-the-road/comments/atom.xml/ED commented on 'Getting down off the soapbox and mingling with the crowd'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef011570a6d03c970c2009-07-01T23:53:04Z2009-07-01T23:53:04ZEDWhen I was in HS in the US,I met a boy from Coventry who told me all about the bombing...<p>When I was in HS in the US,I met a boy from Coventry who told me all about the bombing during the war. His father had worked for Butter Tools in Coventry. Amazing what the memory can dredge up.</p>Kath Vardi commented on 'Getting down off the soapbox and mingling with the crowd'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef011571993ff7970b2009-07-01T15:16:16Z2009-07-01T15:16:16ZKath VardiTreppenwitz, I've been lurking here for quite some time now and thouroughly enjoy your blogg - don't always agree but...<p>Treppenwitz, I've been lurking here for quite some time now and thouroughly enjoy your blogg - don't always agree but that's the joy of reading here. Hearing (reading?) that you've been invited to Limmud Conference made me want to shout.."GO!!" It's the most fantastic experience - all things Jewish and from all points of view. Its an exciting joy to be there and I for one would love to come and hear you speak!! Its jewish pluralism at its best and definately not an expereince to be missed! Come for the full 5 days if you can - and even better bring the family as there is something for everyone.<br />
Here's hoping we see you in December!</p>rickismom commented on 'Getting down off the soapbox and mingling with the crowd'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef011570a2bb6e970c2009-07-01T09:24:59Z2009-07-01T09:24:59Zrickismomhttp://beneaththewings.blogspot.com/Bottom line is if they are paying your travel and hotel expenses.... You go to England, my brother in law...<p>Bottom line is if they are paying your travel and hotel expenses....</p>
<p> You go to England, my brother in law got a trip to Japan (all expenses paid). I'm feeling a bit left out.....LOL!</p>Baila commented on 'Getting down off the soapbox and mingling with the crowd'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef011570a0acd7970c2009-07-01T04:47:31Z2009-07-01T04:47:31ZBailahttp://www.illcallbaila.blogspot.comWhat an honor. And I propose that some of your long-time commenters be invited as well. You know, to show...<p>What an honor.</p>
<p>And I propose that some of your long-time commenters be invited as well. You know, to show them you have an ENTOURAGE and are not just any ol' dime-a-dozen blogger.</p>
<p>Just a suggestion.<br />
</p>uberimma commented on 'Getting down off the soapbox and mingling with the crowd'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef01157194d953970b2009-07-01T03:06:50Z2009-07-01T03:06:50Zuberimmahttp://doornumberthree.blogspot.comI went to Limmud! Once, when I was a student in Birmingham--I went for free in exchange for babysitting six...<p>I went to Limmud! Once, when I was a student in Birmingham--I went for free in exchange for babysitting six hours every day.</p>
<p>I second everything Judy said. I remember a lot of women in kippot and a session about Prince of Egypt, which had just come out. The presenter asked, "Has anyone here seen the movie?" and someone called out, "No, but I read the book."</p>Noa commented on 'Getting down off the soapbox and mingling with the crowd'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef01157192f58d970b2009-06-30T19:04:08Z2009-06-30T19:04:08ZNoaCongratulations! I agree, the UK in Winter isn't a great prospect. However, the Uni is in a nice rural setting...<p>Congratulations! I agree, the UK in Winter isn't a great prospect. However, the Uni is in a nice rural setting and is close to some interesting places, including Stratford upon Avon, home of The Bard. You HAVE to take Zahava to a play whilst you are there. The RSC are amazing!<br />
Coventry is a horrible place - don't bother going there, unless you want to see the cathedral that the Germans bombed with a brand new one parked beside it (the architecture is unique).<br />
In my day, the university was called the University of Coventry AT Warwick.<br />
Oh yes, Warwick castle is interesting - they even have dungeons!</p>britac commented on 'Getting down off the soapbox and mingling with the crowd'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef01157192b8e5970b2009-06-30T18:40:12Z2009-06-30T18:40:13Zbritac... and most important of all, don't forget that they drive on the left !!<p>... and most important of all, don't forget that they drive on the left !!</p>Max Power commented on 'Getting down off the soapbox and mingling with the crowd'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef011571928af7970b2009-06-30T18:16:57Z2009-06-30T18:16:57ZMax Power"and the home of Lady Godiva. " Does that mean you could bring back chocolate? I miss Godiva Chocolate.<p>"and the home of Lady Godiva. " Does that mean you could bring back chocolate? I miss Godiva Chocolate.</p>Jesse commented on 'Getting down off the soapbox and mingling with the crowd'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef0115709c53f1970c2009-06-30T17:02:49Z2009-06-30T17:02:49ZJessehttp://anotheraliyahblog.wordpress.comKol HaKavod Lecha! Very cool indeed. Just remember, as has been pointed out already, that they will have very distinct...<p>Kol HaKavod Lecha!</p>
<p>Very cool indeed. Just remember, as has been pointed out already, that they will have very distinct preconceived notions of what a "Settler" is based on the - ahem - unbiased reporting of the Guardian. Just be yourself, you'll blow them away and hopefully change some of those notions!</p>LeahGG commented on 'Getting down off the soapbox and mingling with the crowd'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef011571917caa970b2009-06-30T16:59:36Z2009-06-30T16:59:36ZLeahGGhttp://trilcat.blogspot.comDon't they need a sub-blogger to go too? I sooo have the travel bug.<p>Don't they need a sub-blogger to go too? <br />
I sooo have the travel bug.</p>Jack commented on 'Getting down off the soapbox and mingling with the crowd'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef0115709c033e970c2009-06-30T16:41:49Z2009-06-30T16:41:49ZJackhttp://wwwjackbenimble.blogspot.com/Sounds like a great opportunity.<p>Sounds like a great opportunity.</p>Wry Mouth commented on 'Getting down off the soapbox and mingling with the crowd'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef0115709b07e6970c2009-06-30T15:23:17Z2009-06-30T15:23:17ZWry Mouthhttp://wrymouth.com"I dashed off an email to the woman who had sent the invitation just to make sure it wasn't a...<p>"I dashed off an email to the woman who had sent the invitation just to make sure it wasn't a joke. I should point out that this is far harder than it sounds, because you have to walk a very fine line between sounding genuinely interested ...and not wanting to walk face-first into a pie..." </p>
<p>Well. That ability to walk fine lines is probably what got you the invite in the first place! ;o/</p>
<p>Sorry you won't be UK-bound in July; the missus has pried me out of the house (and the state, and the USA) to rattle around Western Europe for a few weeks with the Wry brood. Still, cheers! I'll be closer to you, so I'll wave in your general direction (cf. Monty Python).</p>
<p>Congrats, and I'm pulling for ya!</p>Judy commented on 'Getting down off the soapbox and mingling with the crowd'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef0115718fe0a3970b2009-06-30T14:46:53Z2009-06-30T14:46:53ZJudyhttp://adloyada.typepad.comMost of the people who attend Limmud assume that settlements are the heart of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and that if...<p>Most of the people who attend Limmud assume that settlements are the heart of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and that if they were dismantled, the confict would cease. They tend to be pro-Israel but mainstream left of centre. The majority are either non-observant formally Orthodox, Masorti (disproportionately high numbers) and Reform/Liberal. There are also many students and young people--the number of resultant engagements/marriages following each year of Limmud is legendary. They tend to assume that settlers are militant gun-toting recent US olim with far right perspectives who wouldn't hesitate to take a pot-shot at passing Palestinians.</p>
<p>They will be ready to have their prejudices confirmed. On the other hand they very much warm to having them overturned. Rabbi Menachem Froman, a peace activist settler has been very well received. They are very interested in Rabbi Riskin. They have virtually zilch knowledge of the actual legal position as to who owns what land in the territories as argued by the Israeli government. They have very little knowledge of what "a settlement" is really like, what the whole range of its relationships with Palestinians are, and what the Palestinian "refugee camps" and villages are actually like. Most believe that the Palestinians live in great poverty and are in constant danger and under harassment. Many believe that the settlements' sewage systems pollute Palestinian villages/camps, and take "their water". They believe that Palestinians are not allowed to travel on the same roads as settlers. They have been told this repeatedly by their newspapers--they tend to be Guardian and Independent readers, although they are critical of their coverage of Israel. They tend to believe the BBC and even more the UK government when they state that settlements are illegal. They have never seen images of the more middle class of Palestinian homes on the West Bank. They have very little knowledge of the range of people living in a place like Efrat, and what "natural expansion" might mean in practical terms.</p>
<p>You can expect to be asked a lot of questions on what exactly you would do in the event of a proposed or actual peace agreement with the Palestinians, and what you have been led to believe by official sources will happen to Efrat if there is a peace settlement.</p>
<p>They have little knowledge of the reality of the evidence of Jewish life in ancient Israel as it can be found in the territories--such as the path of the shalosh regalim to Jerusalem.</p>
<p>They have very little idea of the life of Jewish religiously observant women in the territories. They have seen many documentaries in which militant US-origin settler-movement women in headscarves have berated viewers with their unquestioning view of their divine right to the whole land of Israel. They will never have seen a documentary which features the life of a woman like Zahava, including her role as an internet-based businesswoman.</p>
<p>They are also convinced that the checkpoints are unnecessary if they are not on the 1967 borders and have been put there and run so as deliberately to harass and humiliate Palestinians. They have read many articles and seen many TV documentaries which show them this.</p>
<p>A good series of four gets loads of participants--people at Limmud love them if they learn something new and get a chance to engage with engaging people.<br />
</p>a. commented on 'Getting down off the soapbox and mingling with the crowd'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef0115718f6598970b2009-06-30T13:46:31Z2009-06-30T13:46:32Za.You're joking, no? First time ever that you've heard about Limmud? So, when will you be speaking at the German...<p>You're joking, no? First time ever that you've heard about Limmud? <br />
So, when will you be speaking at the German Limmud festival? :)<br />
</p>chairwomanwoman commented on 'Getting down off the soapbox and mingling with the crowd'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef0115709a1f8b970c2009-06-30T13:37:10Z2009-06-30T13:37:10Zchairwomanwomanhttp://www.chairwoman-of-the-bored.blogspot.comLimmud is very informal and has a surprising range of seminars. I'm sure you'll be a great success. Warwick University...<p>Limmud is very informal and has a surprising range of seminars. </p>
<p>I'm sure you'll be a great success. </p>
<p>Warwick University is one of the UK's top ten colleges. It's in Coventry, in the west Midlands, and the home of Lady Godiva. Generally speaking it's not very cold in that part of the UK in December.</p>
<p>I might drive up to attend one of your seminars, but couldn't manage the whole <i>shtick</i> at the moment.</p>rutimizrachi commented on 'Getting down off the soapbox and mingling with the crowd'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef0115718f2827970b2009-06-30T13:02:53Z2009-06-30T13:02:53Zrutimizrachihttp://rutimizrachi.blogspot.com/You will be marvelous, because you are not a stuffed shirt. (The walking competition has loosened the stuffing a bit,...<p>You will be marvelous, because you are not a stuffed shirt. (The walking competition has loosened the stuffing a bit, I am sure.) Just do what rabbis do: let THEM choose the topics -- and then talk about something entirely different. It has worked for rabbis near and dear to our hearts for years. Good luck convincing Zahava. (These things never happen on a sun-drenched beach in the tropics, do they? Let us know if you need a place to store Gilly when he's not at school.</p>tnspr569 commented on 'Getting down off the soapbox and mingling with the crowd'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef0115718f1316970b2009-06-30T12:48:21Z2009-06-30T12:48:21Ztnspr569Talk about celebrity status!<p>Talk about celebrity status!</p>Hadassah commented on 'Getting down off the soapbox and mingling with the crowd'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef01157099a83f970c2009-06-30T11:58:40Z2009-06-30T11:58:40ZHadassahhttp://hadassahsabo.wordpress.comand to think I knew you when........will you still associate with us little folks?? ;) kol Hakoavod Lecha!<p>and to think I knew you when........will you still associate with us little folks?? ;)</p>
<p>kol Hakoavod Lecha!</p>