Comments on What kind of monster hangs up on a five year old?!TypePad2008-12-16T12:59:15ZDavid Bognerhttps://www.treppenwitz.com/tag:typepad.com,2003:https://www.treppenwitz.com/2008/12/what-kind-of-mo/comments/atom.xml/Devo K commented on 'What kind of monster hangs up on a five year old?!'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef01053698d1df970c2008-12-24T17:48:29Z2008-12-24T17:48:29ZDevo Khttp://yeshasettler.blogspot.com/You realize of course the next step is teaching him the proper way to make a phone call.. and it's...<p>You realize of course the next step is teaching him the proper way to make a phone call.. and it's not the common method used here:</p>
<p>Ringring<br />
Callee: Hello?<br />
Caller: Hello, who is this?</p>
<p>GAH! I hate when people do that to me... YOU called me. You introduce yourself and say with whom you wish to speak to first... then I may tell you you've got who you're trying to reach or it's someone else... but don't ask who *I* am!</p>Gila commented on 'What kind of monster hangs up on a five year old?!'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef0105367de8dc970b2008-12-18T14:05:32Z2008-12-18T14:05:32ZGilahttp://www.myshrapnel.blogspot.com"Because she'll miss you. She loves you." "Why?" "Good question, actually." LOL!<p>"Because she'll miss you. She loves you."</p>
<p>"Why?"</p>
<p>"Good question, actually."</p>
<p>LOL!</p>psachya commented on 'What kind of monster hangs up on a five year old?!'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef010536856146970c2008-12-18T13:54:20Z2008-12-18T13:54:20ZpsachyaShoshi - I am fully aware that it is a game. That was my point. There are, however, some times...<p>Shoshi -<br />
I am fully aware that it is a game. That was my point. There are, however, some times that Abba doesn't have time to play - and generally, I'm not quite as gruff with the kids as all that. We all have our days, though...</p>Batya commented on 'What kind of monster hangs up on a five year old?!'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef01053684b0a5970c2008-12-18T05:45:17Z2008-12-18T05:45:17ZBatya http://shilohmusings.blogspot.com/That's a tough one, but it is the job of parents to teach those social skills. Last night, before I...<p>That's a tough one, but it is the job of parents to teach those social skills. Last night, before I left the grandkids, my daughter was trying to get her 5 year old to listen and answer. But it seems like the young lady inherited a talent to "tune out." My daugher is trying to teach her daughter that it's not nice at certain times.</p>Rami commented on 'What kind of monster hangs up on a five year old?!'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef01053684afe2970c2008-12-18T05:43:32Z2008-12-18T05:43:32ZRamiYonah better not be listening to Lil Jon. :-)<p>Yonah better not be listening to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lil_Jon" rel="nofollow">Lil Jon</a>. :-)</p>Rami commented on 'What kind of monster hangs up on a five year old?!'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef01053684aeb8970c2008-12-18T05:41:20Z2008-12-18T05:41:21ZRamiYonah better not be listening to Lil John. :-)<p>Yonah better not be listening to Lil John. :-) </p>shoshi commented on 'What kind of monster hangs up on a five year old?!'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef0105367d262e970b2008-12-18T04:45:28Z2008-12-18T04:45:28Zshoshi@Jack: Your problem seems a bit tougher than the first two. In our community's gan, there are structures that would...<p>@Jack:<br />
Your problem seems a bit tougher than the first two.<br />
In our community's gan, there are structures that would help you deal with the problem: <br />
Parents bring the children between 8h and 8.30<br />
At 8.30, "class starts", so to speak: the children sit in a circle and the the kindergarten teacher tells them a story or whatever. So from this moment on, there is no room for parents in the kindergarten anymore.</p>
<p>I think that the solution lies in something like this: not you should leave the child, but the child should leave you. So perhaps you could aks the ganenet to get the child involved in something where you have no room, so that you become kind of "superfluous" in the situation. I do not know whether you can ask the ganenet to this every morning for some time... It seems a bit demanding.</p>
<p>By the way: separation problems in the gan often are really the parent's separation problmes acted out by the children: In reality, the child pities the parent because he/she thinks that it is hard for the parent to separate. In this case, the solution would be not to have a bad conscience (what kind of parent am I to leave the child here), but to be very cheerful about going to the gan.</p>shoshi commented on 'What kind of monster hangs up on a five year old?!'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef0105367cff9b970b2008-12-18T03:31:26Z2008-12-18T03:31:26ZshoshiBy the way, this is also a solution for you, Treppenwitz: Just answer What? When your child says "What?"<p>By the way, this is also a solution for you, Treppenwitz: Just answer What? When your child says "What?"</p>shoshi commented on 'What kind of monster hangs up on a five year old?!'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef0105367cfde4970b2008-12-18T03:28:17Z2008-12-18T03:28:17Zshoshi@psachya: When children are about 2-3 years old, they discover that the question "why" is a button that makes adults...<p>@psachya:<br />
When children are about 2-3 years old, they discover that the question "why" is a button that makes adults speak. So the meaning of the question is not "why", but "say something, we are playing a game".<br />
If you want to stop it, don't take the why for it's face value, just say "why?" yourself.</p>shoshi commented on 'What kind of monster hangs up on a five year old?!'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef0105367cf87b970b2008-12-18T03:18:25Z2008-12-18T03:18:25ZshoshiWAs your intention to make him cry? If not, than I think that you were wront to do this. You...<p>WAs your intention to make him cry? If not, than I think that you were wront to do this. You do not know how much love you can destroy in the heart of a five-year-old by doing something like this. Hanging up the phone is a very brutal thing to do, especially if the person is dependent on you.</p>
<p>There is no need to be confrontational with a child: a child is a child, you are the adult. In the second where you become confrontational, you act as if you were a five-year-old yourself.</p>
<p>So if Yona does not yet know how to use a phone adequately, just don't phone with him from the start.<br />
I do not think that it is completely inapropriate to use a phone to mark presence without speaking.<br />
But if you do not like the situation and want to stop it, than find an excuse and talk to him very nicely before you hang up: Dear Yonah, I love you so much, I hope you will have a very nice day. I am very sorry, I cannot continue being on the phone with you now (because I am driving, because xyz). I love you very much, I send you 1000 kisses. Bye).</p>
<p>You can do it in a friendly way. No need to stab the child's heart.<br />
Furthermore, I do not think that what you did was "educational", because no one says that the child could "learn the lesson" from it and transfer it to situations where he is on the phone with other people. I think it was a plain demonstration of power. So don't do it anymore, if you do not have the intention of torturing the child.</p>Fred commented on 'What kind of monster hangs up on a five year old?!'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef01053683be7d970c2008-12-17T22:17:31Z2008-12-17T22:17:32ZFredWhat?<p>What?</p>b. commented on 'What kind of monster hangs up on a five year old?!'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef01053682a24e970c2008-12-17T18:11:01Z2008-12-17T18:11:01Zb.What would have happened if instead you had stopped asking him questions and simply kept him company in quiet until...<p>What would have happened if instead you had stopped asking him questions and simply kept him company in quiet until he spoke again to you?</p>
<p>I hope it turns out to be for the best.</p>psachya commented on 'What kind of monster hangs up on a five year old?!'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef010536827b94970c2008-12-17T16:47:31Z2008-12-17T16:47:32ZpsachyaMy kids sometimes do that, but with "Why" instead of "What". Example: "C'mon, it's time for bed." "Why?" "Because it's...<p>My kids sometimes do that, but with "Why" instead of "What". Example:</p>
<p>"C'mon, it's time for bed."</p>
<p>"Why?"</p>
<p>"Because it's late, and you need to go to school tomorrow."</p>
<p>"Why?"</p>
<p>"Because if you miss school, your morah will be very sad."</p>
<p>"Why?"</p>
<p>"Because she'll miss you. She loves you."</p>
<p>"Why?"</p>
<p>"Good question, actually."</p>
<p>"Huh?!"</p>
<p>This game is a little more fun than the "What?" game, but it gets a bit annoying eventually. If I'm not in the mood, the first "Why?" elicits a sharp "BECAUSE I SAID SO!!" from yours truly, which ends the game pretty fast. But usually I'm a pretty good sport about it.</p>Wry Mouth commented on 'What kind of monster hangs up on a five year old?!'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef0105367aabdd970b2008-12-17T15:06:33Z2008-12-17T15:06:33ZWry Mouthhttp://wrymouth.combut.. then... that person wouldn't be a monster, then; would they? or -- worse -- maybe the ARE, in the...<p>but.. then... that person wouldn't be a monster, then; would they? </p>
<p>or -- worse -- maybe the ARE, in the sense that fewer and fewer fathers care to make men out of their boys... egad... ;o/</p>JoeSettler commented on 'What kind of monster hangs up on a five year old?!'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef01053679ebfd970b2008-12-17T07:20:00Z2008-12-17T07:20:01ZJoeSettlerhttp://www.JoeSettler.comI can't take my kid to Gan. When I do, he won't go in. Instead he demands to go to...<p>I can't take my kid to Gan. When I do, he won't go in. Instead he demands to go to shul with me for davening, and only afterwords will he agreeably go to Gan.</p>
<p>I'm fine with that.</p>
<p>The problem is that with me (and not my wife of course), once in the Gan I am not allowed to leave, and must sit there and play with him. Not a problem for a few minutes, but... you get the point.</p>
<p>Anyway, that's not the real problem either.</p>
<p>The problem is when I pick him up later, his question is invariably, "Abba, why did you run away from me?"</p>
<p>Now how are you supposed to deal with that?</p>Jack commented on 'What kind of monster hangs up on a five year old?!'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef010536817d07970c2008-12-17T06:01:08Z2008-12-17T06:01:09ZJackhttp://wwwjackbenimble.blogspot.com/Just wait. One day Yonah will turn the tables on you and then the fun will start. Oh yes, I...<p>Just wait. One day Yonah will turn the tables on you and then the fun will start. Oh yes, I can even picture him blogging about it.</p>rutimizrachi commented on 'What kind of monster hangs up on a five year old?!'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef01053679a3d9970b2008-12-17T05:32:35Z2008-12-17T05:32:35Zrutimizrachihttp://rutimizrachi.blogspot.com/Beyond all of the well-intentioned analysis, you need to just accept the obvious diagnosis, Trep. Yonah has just turned into...<p>Beyond all of the well-intentioned analysis, you need to just accept the obvious diagnosis, Trep. Yonah has just turned into a teenager. I hear those phone conversations all the time. (Hmmmmm... I may have to employ the "Evil Treppenwitz Method" on the teenangels...)</p>Chantal commented on 'What kind of monster hangs up on a five year old?!'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef01053678b22c970b2008-12-16T23:38:37Z2008-12-16T23:38:37ZChantalYou monster!!! ...just kidding, that made my night. :) Agreed with tnspr - I'm looking forward to the next twist...<p>You monster!!! ...just kidding, that made my night. :) Agreed with tnspr - I'm looking forward to the next twist in the routine...</p>rickismom commented on 'What kind of monster hangs up on a five year old?!'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef01053678a7f1970b2008-12-16T23:17:42Z2008-12-16T23:17:42Zrickismomhttp://beneaththewings.blogspot.com/You gotta do what it takes.... Glad you were able to fiqure out what was going on.<p>You gotta do what it takes....</p>
<p>Glad you were able to fiqure out what was going on.</p>Ilana-Davita commented on 'What kind of monster hangs up on a five year old?!'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef01053678626a970b2008-12-16T21:21:15Z2008-12-16T21:21:16ZIlana-Davitahttp://ilanadavita.wordpress.com/Nice to see, through this nice little story,that Yonah is making progress.<p>Nice to see, through this nice little story,that Yonah is making progress.</p>What War Zone??? commented on 'What kind of monster hangs up on a five year old?!'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef010536801620970c2008-12-16T20:45:24Z2008-12-16T20:45:27ZWhat War Zone???http://www.whatwarzone.comThat story made me laugh starting right around the "Pulp Fiction" reference. Benji<p>That story made me laugh starting right around the "Pulp Fiction" reference.</p>
<p>Benji</p>Baila commented on 'What kind of monster hangs up on a five year old?!'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef01053670a963970b2008-12-16T16:58:13Z2008-12-16T16:58:13ZBailahttp://www.illcallbaila.blogspot.comCall the child abuse hotline!! Although, maybe I can train my mother using your method. Whenever we talk, she has...<p>Call the child abuse hotline!!</p>
<p>Although, maybe I can train my mother using your method. Whenever we talk, she has to have a conversation with my father, say something to my brother, or read a note she happens to pass by. Annoying. I bet if I told her phonecalls were not longer free via the VOIP line, she'd pay attention!</p>val commented on 'What kind of monster hangs up on a five year old?!'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef01053677fd40970c2008-12-16T14:52:13Z2008-12-16T14:52:13Zvalhttp://bogieval.blogs.com/valcentric/You're just a mean Abba... but it just figures, as you were always a mean brother, so you've just got...<p>You're just a mean Abba... but it just figures, as you were always a mean brother, so you've just got different targets now! :)</p>
<p>I still have these types of phone conversations with my 8 yr old... give me patience, Lord!</p>Ari commented on 'What kind of monster hangs up on a five year old?!'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef01053677f201970c2008-12-16T14:34:02Z2008-12-16T14:34:02ZAriLOL. I guess a little tough love is better in the long run than feigning poor reception. Sounds like my...<p>LOL. I guess a little tough love is better in the long run than feigning poor reception.</p>
<p>Sounds like my son, who will call his grandmother just to, er, hear her talk. Very entertaining -- for him, anyway. I think you've just captured what probably goes through her mind.</p>
<p>TV, radio, stereo: great for background noise. Telephones? Not so much.</p>Aharon commented on 'What kind of monster hangs up on a five year old?!'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef01053677f139970c2008-12-16T14:32:57Z2008-12-16T14:32:57ZAharonhttp://www.alluregraphics.comI too have a very vocal 5 year old who can talk for quite a while without actually conversing. Her...<p>I too have a very vocal 5 year old who can talk for quite a while without actually conversing. Her nursery teach told me at the end of the school year that we should get her a radio station - whether or not anyone is listening - since she can go on and on and on...</p>tnspr569 commented on 'What kind of monster hangs up on a five year old?!'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef01053677df10970c2008-12-16T13:58:39Z2008-12-16T13:58:39Ztnspr569It's good to hear that Yonah is continuing to make such progress (bli ayin harah)! Sounds like a very special...<p>It's good to hear that Yonah is continuing to make such progress (bli ayin harah)!</p>
<p>Sounds like a very special routine - I wonder what turn it'll take next...</p>