Comments on A date that will live in infamy...TypePad2008-12-07T13:58:08ZDavid Bognerhttps://www.treppenwitz.com/tag:typepad.com,2003:https://www.treppenwitz.com/2008/12/a-date-that-wil/comments/atom.xml/justavisitor commented on 'A date that will live in infamy...'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef0240a490e975200b2019-03-08T11:49:10Z2019-05-01T13:36:18ZjustavisitorOne of the guys at the pistol club I used to frequent (it shut down some years back) told us...<p>One of the guys at the pistol club I used to frequent (it shut down some years back) told us he was in Vietnam, and whilst in transit barracks in Hawaii, was on shore patrol in Pearl Harbor. He claims that a Japanese tourist asked him where the Arizona was, and he replied, "right where you left it!" I wonder if he was simply passing along the same joke and this never really happened to him.</p>Wry Mouth commented on 'A date that will live in infamy...'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef010536571df1970c2008-12-10T04:53:35Z2008-12-10T04:53:35ZWry Mouthhttp://wrymouth.com"Any Japanese Americans who knew his /her history would be wise to request reparations for the American Internment camps to...<p>"Any Japanese Americans who knew his /her history would be wise to request reparations for the American Internment camps to which their grandparents where shipped during WWII."</p>
<p>I think "wise" is the wrong word here, between you and me. Unless you mean the US government is soft enough to give $ to anyone who asks, and one would be foolish to turn down free taxpayers' $.</p>
<p>Reparations to that generation that suffered imposed deprivations, proportionate to the loss? Yes. Let each soul "make their own decide," as my Italian uncle's mom would say.</p>
<p>Reparations from the innocent, to the undeserving? What? In that case, I'm gonna go ask the Soviet government for somea that reparations money, since Stalin drove my gampa out of the Caucasus.</p>
<p>Or -- maybe better -- I will just be thankful he ended up in the Land of Opportunity and availed himself and his family of a better life. More alleged "reparations" candidates would do well to consider -- really -- how their families' and tribes' lives would have turned out had they NOT been deprived, a hundred or more years ago.</p>Lion of Zion commented on 'A date that will live in infamy...'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef0105365215f7970c2008-12-09T05:01:18Z2008-12-09T05:01:18ZLion of Zionhttp://agmk.blogpost.comthe arizona was very moving we found the hawains to very pleasant<p>the arizona was very moving</p>
<p>we found the hawains to very pleasant</p>joyce commented on 'A date that will live in infamy...'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef0105364d7441970c2008-12-08T15:06:48Z2008-12-08T15:06:49Zjoycehttp://www.kneedeepinthehooah.com/ I learned yesterday from this blog that there were 36 sets of brothers who served on the USS Arizona,...<p>http://www.kneedeepinthehooah.com/ </p>
<p>I learned yesterday from this blog that there were 36 sets of brothers who served on the USS Arizona, and a set of three brothers and a father and son. Amazing.</p>treppenwitz commented on 'A date that will live in infamy...'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef0105364ce2d3970c2008-12-08T08:53:23Z2008-12-08T08:53:23Ztreppenwitzhttp://www.treppenwitz.comJack... Thanks Bob ... I wonder if she even got it? Sol... To be clear, there is no hierarchy of...<p>Jack... Thanks</p>
<p>Bob ... I wonder if she even got it?</p>
<p>Sol... To be clear, there is no hierarchy of brutality or cruelty that anyone really considers 'official'. War, by definition, is a brutal, murderous thing. However, the telling factor about the way a country can sometimes be judges is in how they treat their prisoners and the civilian population in the areas they conquer. Approximately 15% of prisoners in German POW camps died during their captivity. By comparison, approximately 15% of prisoners under Japanese captivity survived! Yes, the Germans established a well-oiled machine to liquidate the Jews (and any other undesirables) at home and in the countries under their control. I am obviously not forgiving that or placing it in an acceptable context. I am simply pointing out that what the Japanese lacked in organizational skills when it came to the sheer number of murders, they more than made up for in enthusiasm and brutality. Ironically, both the Japanese and Germans have distanced themselves from the racial prejudices that led to their mistaken idea that a 'superior race' was allowed to slaughter any inferior race... the Arabs of our generation still subscribe to this fatally flawed idea.</p>
<p>Wry Mouth ... Any Japanese Americans who knew his /her history would be wise to request reparations for the American Internment camps to which their grandparents where shipped during WWII.</p>
<p>Ilana-Davita ... You can read my response to Sol, but I must reiterate that was not suggesting better or worse. I was simply pointing out a personal prejudice I have based on my historical studies. I would have no problem driving a VW car, but I won't buy a Mitsubishi. The difference is that most of the slave laborers who were forced to work in German industries survived the war while most slave laborers who worked in Japanese industries did not. </p>Ilana-Davita commented on 'A date that will live in infamy...'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef01053644db1a970b2008-12-08T08:08:56Z2008-12-08T08:08:56ZIlana-Davitahttp://ilanadavita.wordpress.com/Intersting reflection even though I also disagree about the Japanese eing worse than"the Germans", I mean the Japanese and Germans...<p>Intersting reflection even though I also disagree about the Japanese eing worse than"the Germans", I mean the Japanese and Germans during (and a bit before) WWII of course.</p>Wry Mouth commented on 'A date that will live in infamy...'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef01053644d680970b2008-12-08T07:55:34Z2008-12-08T07:55:34ZWry Mouthhttp://wrymouth.comWhat's that? You're not gonna ask Japanese tourists for reparations? ;o/ Long live the memory of Pearl Harbor and brave...<p>What's that? You're not gonna ask Japanese tourists for reparations? ;o/</p>
<p>Long live the memory of Pearl Harbor and brave kids everywhere</p>Sol commented on 'A date that will live in infamy...'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef0105364437aa970b2008-12-08T01:59:30Z2008-12-08T01:59:30ZSol"And even though, all these years later I now harbor much more animosity towards the Japanese than even the Germans,...<p>"And even though, all these years later I now harbor much more animosity towards the Japanese than even the Germans, due to their brutal, murderous actions during the WWII"</p>
<p>I realize that the Japanese were brutal and ruthless and were responsible for hundreds of thousands, and maybe millions, of innocent civilian deaths but why use the Germans as your measuring stick. The Germans built an entire bureaucratic apparatus that was created to define who Jews were, where they should be forced to live, and eventually, to see that they would live no more. This was not murder as a byproduct of war, not casualties as a result of skirmishes or partisan activities, but the end-result of an ideology that had for years been calling Jews vermin and also calling for their destruction. This was a sophisticated machine, an industry developed to exterminate first and foremost the Jews of Europe. </p>
<p>Are the Japanese atrocities really more brutal then Babi Yar, Treblinka or the Einsatzgruppen (Historian Raul Hilberg estimates that between 1941 and 1945 the Einsatzgruppen killed more than 1.3 million Jews in open-air shootings). Would it not have been sufficient to say you are horrified by brutal murderous actions of the Japanese during the 1930's and 1940's ?</p>Bob commented on 'A date that will live in infamy...'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef01053643ad7b970b2008-12-07T21:29:18Z2008-12-07T21:29:18ZBobhttp://lostfart.blogspot.comThanks for the thoughtful reflection, but dang that was a great punchline. It reminds me of one a friend once...<p>Thanks for the thoughtful reflection, but dang that was a great punchline. It reminds me of one a friend once used on an very obviously pregnant woman who'd stepped in front of his car, forcing him to slam on the brakes: "You know lady, you could also get knocked DOWN."</p>Jack commented on 'A date that will live in infamy...'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef010536432c84970b2008-12-07T17:04:45Z2008-12-07T17:04:45ZJackhttp://wwwjackbenimble.blogspot.com/Well said.<p>Well said.</p>