Comments on "Sometimes people need to move"TypePad2008-03-18T12:05:04ZDavid Bognerhttps://www.treppenwitz.com/tag:typepad.com,2003:https://www.treppenwitz.com/2008/03/sometimes-peopl/comments/atom.xml/brenda erratt commented on '"Sometimes people need to move"'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e55172464d88332008-03-25T17:58:38Z2008-03-25T17:58:39Zbrenda errattGreat piece of writing. As an American I encourage you to stand strong. I agree the land belongs to the...<p>Great piece of writing. As an American I encourage you to stand strong. I agree the land belongs to the Jewish people.After all, G-d Himself said so. </p>Amanda commented on '"Sometimes people need to move"'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5516f5e0388332008-03-24T22:54:37Z2008-03-24T22:54:37ZAmandahttp://www.customerservant.comI'm sharing this on Twitter. Now, let's see if Type Pad will remember my info...<p>I'm sharing this on Twitter. Now, let's see if Type Pad will remember my info...</p>Walter & Diana Fiege commented on '"Sometimes people need to move"'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e55164069388332008-03-21T19:13:06Z2008-03-21T19:13:06ZWalter & Diana FiegeThis definitely needs to be sent to the Ambassador, as well as to leaders in every country, newspapers, etc. It...<p>This definitely needs to be sent to the Ambassador, as well as to leaders in every country, newspapers, etc. It is time Israel stood her ground and everyone else backed off. We are Christian Canadians who love Israel, stand with her and her people, and can't wait to return to Israel in May, because to us it also feels like we are "going home". We love you. </p>balabusta in blue jeans commented on '"Sometimes people need to move"'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5514ca99988342008-03-19T17:32:02Z2008-03-19T17:32:03Zbalabusta in blue jeanshttp://balabustabluejeans.blogspot.comGood piece. "Could it be because you know perfectly well that Jordan and Egypt won't consider having a real or...<p>Good piece.</p>
<p>"Could it be because you know perfectly well that Jordan and Egypt won't consider having a real or defacto Palestinian terror state stirring up discord and unrest in their midst?"</p>
<p>I know it's old hat to discuss this, but it grates on my nerves the way Jordan and Egypt are simply exempt from this discussion, and from any serious criticism of their behavior in this, the longest-running human rights crisis on Broadway. Feh.</p>Wollf commented on '"Sometimes people need to move"'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e55134ce1b88332008-03-19T05:51:33Z2008-03-19T05:51:33ZWollfhttp://howlsatmoon.blogspot.comAnd, just so's yah know, there are a whole Bunch of your Gentile, yet not gentle Brethren out here who...<p>And, just so's yah know, there are a whole Bunch of your Gentile, yet not gentle Brethren out here who support you and yours. May G-d Bles Israel and give Her People strength.<br />
Wollf</p>Wry Mouth commented on '"Sometimes people need to move"'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e551343b7388332008-03-19T02:07:51Z2008-03-19T02:07:52ZWry Mouthhttp://wrymouth.comohpleaseohpleaseohplease tell me the AMBASSADOR TO ISRAEL actually said that! I have an open spot right next to my "Let...<p>ohpleaseohpleaseohplease tell me the AMBASSADOR TO ISRAEL actually said that! I have an open spot right next to my "Let Them Eat Cake" tattoo!</p>Sarah commented on '"Sometimes people need to move"'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e55149fc7f88342008-03-19T01:51:12Z2008-03-19T01:51:12ZSarahhttp://chayyeisarah.blogspot.comYou go, David!<p>You go, David!</p>QuietusLeo commented on '"Sometimes people need to move"'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e55149177488342008-03-18T21:07:28Z2008-03-18T21:07:29ZQuietusLeohttp://quietusleo.blogspot.comWell said, darn it!<p>Well said, darn it!</p>Back of the Hill commented on '"Sometimes people need to move"'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e55149168188342008-03-18T21:06:13Z2008-03-18T21:06:14ZBack of the Hillhttp://atthebackofthehill.blogspot.com/If the Palestinians reject Uganda, perhaps Alaska.<p>If the Palestinians reject Uganda, perhaps Alaska.</p>Back of the Hill commented on '"Sometimes people need to move"'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e551335bea88332008-03-18T21:06:05Z2008-03-18T21:06:05ZBack of the Hillhttp://atthebackofthehill.blogspot.com/If the Palestinians reject Uganda, perhaps Alaska.<p>If the Palestinians reject Uganda, perhaps Alaska.</p>Back of the Hill commented on '"Sometimes people need to move"'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e55149137588342008-03-18T21:02:27Z2008-03-18T21:02:27ZBack of the Hillhttp://atthebackofthehill.blogspot.com/Quote - Israel is routinely bludgeoned with a quote from the 'Universal Declaration of Human Rights' that states: "Everyone has...<p>Quote - Israel is routinely bludgeoned with a quote from the 'Universal Declaration of Human Rights' that states: "Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country". This simple statement is used by most to champion the 'Palestinian refugees' right of return. - End Quote.</p>
<p>Once they have a country, they may return. I advocate Uganda. </p>Hadassah commented on '"Sometimes people need to move"'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e551332e1488332008-03-18T20:17:59Z2008-03-18T20:17:59ZHadassahhttp://hadassahsabo.wordpress.comBravo! Extremely well written! Definitely needs to be sent on to the man himself.<p>Bravo! Extremely well written! Definitely needs to be sent on to the man himself. </p>Ari commented on '"Sometimes people need to move"'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e55148cbe288342008-03-18T19:34:18Z2008-03-18T19:34:18ZAriThis one is a keeper.<p>This one is a keeper.</p>psachya commented on '"Sometimes people need to move"'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e55148cb4688342008-03-18T19:33:29Z2008-03-18T19:33:29ZpsachyaBrilliant post, David. One of your best. BTW, I've had several conversations with folks who said variations on the "why...<p>Brilliant post, David. One of your best.</p>
<p>BTW, I've had several conversations with folks who said variations on the "why can't they just move" theme. I give them an alternative scenario: What if an affluent African-American family moves onto a formerly lily-white block somewhere in suburbia? And what if the neighbors make life, um, incredibly uncomfortable for said African-American family? Why not just ask them to move? It would only make everyone happier, right? "Well, that's different," the folks answer me - but they can never exactly tell me why.</p>Helene Rock commented on '"Sometimes people need to move"'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e55133013b88332008-03-18T19:31:35Z2008-03-18T19:31:36ZHelene Rock Yasher Koach, David. VERY VERY well articulated. And I doubt any of us would disagree with you, here.<p>Yasher Koach, David. VERY VERY well articulated. And I doubt any of us would disagree with you, here. </p>Helene Rock commented on '"Sometimes people need to move"'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e55148c9d388342008-03-18T19:31:31Z2008-03-18T19:31:31ZHelene Rock Yasher Koach, David. VERY VERY well articulated. And I doubt any of us would disagree with you, here.<p>Yasher Koach, David. VERY VERY well articulated. And I doubt any of us would disagree with you, here. </p>Joseph . E- Givatayim-Israel commented on '"Sometimes people need to move"'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e55148c3a588342008-03-18T19:24:28Z2008-03-18T19:24:28ZJoseph . E- Givatayim-IsraelThe Merkaz Harav Tragedy a week ago , Today the stabbed Rabbi at the Old City entrance , And now...<p>The Merkaz Harav Tragedy a week ago , <br />
Today the stabbed Rabbi at the Old City entrance ,<br />
And now that outrageous dhimmi Jones`s slander.<br />
He got some nerves that redneck !</p>
<p>Your post is right on .</p>Doctor Bean commented on '"Sometimes people need to move"'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e55148813f88342008-03-18T18:09:23Z2008-03-18T18:09:23ZDoctor BeanSometimes people need to move. Other times, they need to arm themselves and kill their enemies.<p>Sometimes people need to move. Other times, they need to arm themselves and kill their enemies.</p>matlabfreak commented on '"Sometimes people need to move"'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e55132943588332008-03-18T17:38:01Z2008-03-18T17:38:01Zmatlabfreakhttp://matlabfreak.blogspot.comI am (surprisingly) in general agreement with you on this one, David. I do think, though that part of the...<p>I am (surprisingly) in general agreement with you on this one, David. I do think, though that part of the incredible housing pressure in Jerusalem proper (not the outlying areas - Givat Ze'ev, Har Homa, etc.) is a problem of our own making.</p>
<p>We've controlled Jerusalem for nearly 41 years now, and I think some serious mistakes were made in its urban planning. The solution to burgeoning population pressures (both from a high fertility rate and large immigration rate to the city) can't be dealt with on a project-by-project (or even neighborhood-by-neighborhood) basis. The infrastructure of the city is terribly lacking if it truly aspires to be a metropolis, and the government has ignored most of East Jerusalem in its development efforts. If Israel truly wants an eternal, undivided capital, it needs to settle Israelis (not just identity-card carrying Palestinians) in East Jerusalem, fix up the infrastructure there, and create a contiguous region, rather than a festering sore in the middle surrounded by various affluent settlements and suburbs. There have been some small-time (yet admirable) efforts in this area, largely by private enterprise, but the fact of the matter is that Jerusalem is still largely segregated, and the demarcations are very clear - socially, economically, religiously (and not just Jew/Muslim!), etc.</p>
<p>For that matter, while I agree that it's ridiculous to demand that those seeking housing in Jerusalem as part of 'natural growth' (or in the West Bank, for that matter) just move elsewhere, I do think that other portions of the country have been neglected during a single-minded push to develop the center, including Jerusalem. While Jerusalem has some special significance, so does much of the Galil and the northern parts of the Negev. I think that those who are staying in Jerusalem despite mounting housing pressures because of some Zionist ideal of 'we will never leave our land' are ignoring that there are very viable options to concretely advance the Zionist cause elsewhere in the country. We can make the desert bloom, and we can make the beautiful Galil both Israeli <i>and</i> Jewish. I'll be the first to agree that we shouldn't let the world reduce the Jewish state to a few tens of kilometers around Tel Aviv... but given the short-sightedness of the government in providing for a reasonable development plan for Jerusalem (and the current political issues therein), there are other places to stake a valid claim. This is not a value judgment of one over the other, but rather a point that some 'moving' is not in fact bad from an ideological perspective.</p>nikki commented on '"Sometimes people need to move"'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e551484c8188342008-03-18T17:12:49Z2008-03-18T17:12:49Znikkithanks. couldn't have said it better myself. (i know, i know, you're a giver!)<p>thanks. couldn't have said it better myself. (i know, i know, you're a giver!)</p>nikki commented on '"Sometimes people need to move"'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e551484c4288342008-03-18T17:12:33Z2008-03-18T17:12:33Znikkithanks. couldn't have said it better myself. (i know, i know, you're a giver!)<p>thanks. couldn't have said it better myself. (i know, i know, you're a giver!)</p>Karl Newman commented on '"Sometimes people need to move"'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e55132548688332008-03-18T16:35:43Z2008-03-18T16:35:44ZKarl Newman"However nobody, least of all our good friend the United States, seems willing to acknowledge that the provenance of the...<p><i>"However nobody, least of all our good friend the United States, seems willing to acknowledge that the provenance of the Jew's right of return to his own country is far older, and better documented, than any other in history."</i></p>
<p>Nobody? Don't paint with a broad brush. There is a large segment of the US population that supports the existence of Israel on religious or idealogical grounds.<br />
</p>soccer dad commented on '"Sometimes people need to move"'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e551482b2988342008-03-18T16:35:29Z2008-03-18T16:35:30Zsoccer dadhttp://soccerdad.baltiblogs.comDid you say Manifest Destiny?<p>Did you say <a href="http://drybonesblog.blogspot.com/2006/12/occupied-territories-1977.html" rel="nofollow">Manifest Destiny</a>?</p>Jauhara al Kafirah commented on '"Sometimes people need to move"'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e55132395488332008-03-18T16:08:11Z2008-03-18T16:08:11ZJauhara al Kafirahhttp://tastyinfidelicacies.blogspot.comWhere can we send this to our idiot gubmint? I want them to be forced to ignore this.<p>Where can we send this to our idiot gubmint? I want them to be forced to ignore this.</p>annie commented on '"Sometimes people need to move"'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e551322b2688332008-03-18T15:54:38Z2008-03-18T15:54:38ZannieWow! Absolutely brilliant Trep! I second tnspr69's recommendation that you send this to the good Mr. Jones personally. With a...<p>Wow! Absolutely brilliant Trep! I second tnspr69's recommendation that you send this to the good Mr. Jones personally. With a copy to the State Department, the White House, the BBC, the NY Times, and even Ynet and Haaretz.</p>Jack commented on '"Sometimes people need to move"'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e55147c73488342008-03-18T14:34:24Z2008-03-18T14:34:24ZJackhttp://wwwjackbenimble.blogspot.com/Therefore, Mr. Jones, I must respectfully disagree with you. The hell with respect, give it to him in a plain...<p><i>Therefore, Mr. Jones, I must respectfully disagree with you. </i></p>
<p>The hell with respect, give it to him in a plain and unvarnished truth. They seem to think that there is nothing wrong with administering a prostate exam without the necessary "grease." </p>
<p>Let them "feel" that momentary discomfort.</p>tnspr569 commented on '"Sometimes people need to move"'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e55131a31988332008-03-18T13:21:55Z2008-03-18T13:21:55Ztnspr569Wow. Even better than your usual posts. Have you sent this (or something similar to it) on to the friendly...<p>Wow. Even better than your usual posts.</p>
<p>Have you sent this (or something similar to it) on to the friendly ambassador?</p>
<p>Methinks this could do with some publishing in a newspaper or three...</p>
<p>Oh, by the way, in case this hasn't been said to you lately, you rock, David. Big time.</p>