Comments on Putting lipstick on a pigTypePad2008-01-08T07:08:07ZDavid Bognerhttps://www.treppenwitz.com/tag:typepad.com,2003:https://www.treppenwitz.com/2008/01/lipstick-on-a-p/comments/atom.xml/aboutbmw commented on 'Putting lipstick on a pig'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e553cee4ca88342008-07-23T13:29:48Z2008-07-23T13:29:48Zaboutbmwhttp://aboutbmw.itgo.comaboutbmw website a full-service your bmw drift bodykits BMW takes bmw the police Clarkson Test Street bmw funny BMW Vehicles...<p><a href="http://aboutbmw.itgo.com/" rel="nofollow"> aboutbmw </a> <br />
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</p>Lioness commented on 'Putting lipstick on a pig'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e55052715488342008-01-11T14:16:03Z2008-02-14T04:53:43ZLionesshttp://whichsurprisedher.blogspot.comWord.<p>Word.</p>Jeff commented on 'Putting lipstick on a pig'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5505271dd88342008-01-11T11:25:56Z2008-02-14T04:53:47ZJeffHere's a counter argument put as strongly as I can: Why does it matter that Palestinians had "never been heard"...<p>Here's a counter argument put as strongly as I can:</p>
<p>Why does it matter that Palestinians had "never been heard" of before the Mandate? Neither had Iraqis. </p>
<p>The point is that it is usually the native inhabitants that get to form a country based on the fact that they are the native inhabitants.</p>
<p>It's all one to the native inhabitants if perceived outsiders come in, settle and make a country for themselves and not the inhabitants whether they do so on the basis of ancient history or mere desire for land. </p>
<p>Arguments about legalities tend to impress them as unjust. And no wonder.</p>
<p>If Iraq had been handed over to Gypsies or Senegal to the Copts, the natives would not have been comforted by the fact that no one had heard of their national indentities before.</p>
<p>National identity is a matter of perception. </p>psachya commented on 'Putting lipstick on a pig'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e55052741388342008-01-10T09:39:40Z2008-02-14T04:54:20ZpsachyaBTW - those maps of many colors tend to give me headaches. I would scrap the maps and make it...<p>BTW - those maps of many colors tend to give me headaches. I would scrap the maps and make it simple: </p>
<p>"Look, dudes - you guys won't let us live. You started a bunch of wars with us. You kidnap our soldiers, gun down our preschoolers, push old men in wheelchairs off boats, and send your kids to blow themselves up in our restaurants. You are clearly not the sort of people that can be engaged in rational conversation. All we can do is fight you - and every time we've faced you guys on the open battlefield, we've creamed you. As a result of which, we have all this territory - and who cares who was originally supposed to have it? We have it now. And since you're obviously not inclined to be neighborly (your ceaseless attempts to destroy the town of Sderot is a dead giveaway), we think we'll keep it. Have a nice life." </p>
<p>What can I say - I guess I wasn't cut out for the diplomatic corps.</p>psachya commented on 'Putting lipstick on a pig'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503ee7dd88332008-01-09T09:23:31Z2008-02-14T04:53:43ZpsachyaMarginally concerning your comments: I'm reading this after performing at a dinner for Beit Orot, an organization dedicated to keeping...<p>Marginally concerning your comments:<br />
I'm reading this after performing at a dinner for Beit Orot, an organization dedicated to keeping Jerusalem united under Jewish rule. They showed a video of Ehud Olmert soon after his election as Mayor of Jerusalem. Olmert said (I'm paraphrasing here), "These new neighborhoods (Mt. of Olives, Gilo, Ramot, etc.) are not 'settlements'. They are an integral part of the city of Jerusalem, and keeping Jerusalem united was the main reason I was elected mayor." The video juxtaposed this speech with Olmert now - "We must make painful concessions, yada yada yada..." Until that moment, I don't think I fully appreciated how completely Olmert has betrayed the city he once ruled, and supposedly loved. I think history will judge that man very harshly.</p>Jaime commented on 'Putting lipstick on a pig'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5505274bb88342008-01-08T23:51:50Z2008-02-14T04:54:27ZJaimehttp://www.neshamashelanu.blogspot.comAbout your comment about Jordan/Egypt occupying the land from 49-67 .... I always wonder that myself. What was the universal...<p>About your comment about Jordan/Egypt occupying the land from 49-67 ....</p>
<p>I always wonder that myself. What was the universal political mindset back then? And what about the refugee camps - what is the pass down stories about the treatment and conditions of the refugee camps in Jordan during that time period and even afterwards? Weren't their lives worse under Jordanian rule? No idea, just something I thought I remembered hearing.</p>
<p>Why doesn't that ever come up in conversation?</p>Back of the Hill commented on 'Putting lipstick on a pig'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503ee8fb88332008-01-08T22:15:07Z2008-02-14T04:53:51ZBack of the Hillhttp://atthebackofthehill.blogspot.com/As usual, regarding this and similar issues, we see eye to eye.<p>As usual, regarding this and similar issues, we see eye to eye.</p>Back of the Hill commented on 'Putting lipstick on a pig'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503ee69288332008-01-08T22:15:05Z2008-02-14T04:53:28ZBack of the Hillhttp://atthebackofthehill.blogspot.com/As usual, regarding this and similar issues, we see eye to eye.<p>As usual, regarding this and similar issues, we see eye to eye.</p>Amir commented on 'Putting lipstick on a pig'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e55052757188342008-01-08T21:08:38Z2008-02-14T04:54:36ZAmirGood point, and one that many people miss. In fact some guy on an Israeli quiz show lost because he...<p>Good point, and one that many people miss. In fact some guy on an Israeli quiz show lost because he got confused on this exact point, even though it wasn't a very hard question. A couple of corrections. You forgot to note that the post 67 borders included the Sinai peninsula. It is also not true that the Arabs of Eretz Israel (a.k.a today as the Palestinians) did not fight. Abd al-Qadir al-Husayni and Hasan Salama led the Jaysh al-Jihad al-Muqaddas.</p>Ben-David commented on 'Putting lipstick on a pig'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503eeb2988332008-01-08T19:32:02Z2008-02-14T04:54:26ZBen-Davidhttp://westbankmama.wordpress.comI saw your comment on Yourish, and was hoping you would expand it into a post... I hope this post...<p>I saw your comment on Yourish, and was hoping you would expand it into a post... I hope this post gets much exposure. It nicely summarizes both the mindlessness of the left's position - and the underhanded techniques it uses to get its way.</p>chantyshira commented on 'Putting lipstick on a pig'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5505274fe88342008-01-08T18:40:49Z2008-02-14T04:54:31Zchantyshirahttp://xanga.com/chantyshiraOMG... thanks for opening my eyes about the '67 vs '49 borders. I thought I knew about most of the...<p>OMG... thanks for opening my eyes about the '67 vs '49 borders. I thought I knew about most of the media biases surrounding israel but this is a new one! I keep wishing that Sharon will wake up out of his coma and beat Olmert across the head for being such an incompetent leader, and this is definitely one of those times...</p>Wry Mouth commented on 'Putting lipstick on a pig'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503eeac688332008-01-08T14:29:41Z2008-02-14T04:54:21ZWry Mouthhttp://wrymouth.comAren't you glad that the Muslimy countries got all lathered up and attacked in '49, and got their hinders handed...<p>Aren't you glad that the Muslimy countries got all lathered up and attacked in '49, and got their hinders handed to them? The blue zones (true to anything drawn up in a bureaucratic committee) look totally indefensible as a single country. Michigan (USA) is silly in a similar way.</p>Yellow Boy commented on 'Putting lipstick on a pig'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e55052741688342008-01-08T10:19:49Z2008-02-14T04:54:21ZYellow BoyWhy would "a return to the 1949 borders - even a modified version -... be tantamount to admitting that every...<p>Why would "a return to the 1949 borders - even a modified version -... be tantamount to admitting that every war fought since (and every Israeli killed in 60 years of Arab aggression) was for naught"? I don't see the connection at all. </p>