Comments on No one to blame but myselfTypePad2007-04-30T07:45:29ZDavid Bognerhttps://www.treppenwitz.com/tag:typepad.com,2003:https://www.treppenwitz.com/2007/04/no_one_to_blame/comments/atom.xml/treppenwitz commented on 'No one to blame but myself'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503ed7b588332007-05-06T10:09:11Z2008-02-14T04:50:59Ztreppenwitzhttp://www.treppenwitz.comPP... Would you rather I have not responded to someone trying to derail the discussion? Is it impossible to have...<p>PP... Would you rather I have not responded to someone trying to derail the discussion? Is it impossible to have such a discussion here in the Jblogosphere? Just curious.</p>
<p>Alan... 'Ultimatum' is kinda strong. I like to think I was trying to challenge some of the silent lefties who tend to sit out the political discussions here. </p>
<p>Jack... True, but to be fair... I'm a little closer to the eye of the storm. You almost have to choose sides here and make a stand.</p>
<p>antares... At least he is silent by choice and not because of a jail sentence (or worse). A shame though... I agree.</p>
<p>Ezzie... It's funny, but when I wrote 'A difficult lesson I almost deleted it (Zahava urged me to). 'Ibrahim's Mirror' OTOH, is one of my all time favorite things I've written... and it didn't even get a mention. Go figure.</p>
<p>Anne... You have just become my 'target audience'. Congratulations. :-)</p>
<p>Seattle... I wish it were that simple. :-)</p>
<p>ilan... OK, you and Anne can both be my target audience. :-)</p>ilan commented on 'No one to blame but myself'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503ed76888332007-05-03T19:58:20Z2008-02-14T04:50:56Zilanhttp://hopandhope.blogspot.comFWIW, this kind of introspection and the attitude that gives rise to it is one of the primary reasons I...<p>FWIW, this kind of introspection and the attitude that gives rise to it is one of the primary reasons I keep reading.</p>Seattle commented on 'No one to blame but myself'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503ed2ee88332007-05-01T04:00:18Z2008-02-14T04:50:15ZSeattleShort version: no worries :)<p>Short version: no worries :)</p>Anne commented on 'No one to blame but myself'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503ed25288332007-05-01T01:28:37Z2008-02-14T04:50:10ZAnneJust wanted to let you know that I consider myself a liberal on many issues, and come here dafka for...<p>Just wanted to let you know that I consider myself a liberal on many issues, and come here dafka for your perspective on things because you present it in a way that makes sense to me. (FWIW - I am *not* a left-leaning person when it comes to Israel issues, which in general leaves me usually very confused).</p>Ezzie commented on 'No one to blame but myself'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503ed62588332007-04-30T18:51:30Z2008-02-14T04:50:44ZEzziehttp://serandez.blogspot.comSandmonkey's demise is saddening... It's definitely true that most of us gravitate toward blogs we generally agree with, and that...<p>Sandmonkey's demise is saddening...</p>
<p>It's definitely true that most of us gravitate toward blogs we generally agree with, and that *is* sad. OTOH, I enjoy debating with a few of the reasonable voices on the "other side" far more than the often nodding I'll give and receive. It's just a matter of putting in that effort to go to those blogs.</p>
<p>FWIW, I think <i>A Difficult Lesson</i> will easily sweep into the finals, and have a great shot to win. It's incredible and was picked up by so many blogs for that reason. I didn't even have to reread it to remember the details - as soon as I saw the title the whole post came back to me. Good luck...!</p>antares commented on 'No one to blame but myself'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503ed6dd88332007-04-30T16:57:33Z2008-02-14T04:50:52ZantaresAs for 'other voices', one more is silent. Sandmonkey says he is "DONE", because the threat from Egyptian security forces...<p>As for 'other voices', one more is silent. Sandmonkey says he is "DONE", because the threat from Egyptian security forces has become too much. </p>Jack commented on 'No one to blame but myself'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e550525fe788342007-04-30T14:43:59Z2008-02-14T04:50:43ZJackhttp://wwwjackbenimble.blogspot.com/Yesterday's post here on treppenwitz was nothing more than a bleat in the dark... a bit of self pity at...<p><i>Yesterday's post here on treppenwitz was nothing more than a bleat in the dark... a bit of self pity at my own stupidity for having chased away so many of the 'other voices' and then having compounded the mistake by not making the effort to invite them back.</i></p>
<p>I am not sure that it is entirely accurate to blame yourself for having chased them away.</p>
<p>I have been hanging out here for more than a couple of years now and seen a thing or too.</p>
<p>Most disagreements have been relatively tame.</p>
<p>IMHO, the real issue is that most people prefer to hang out with like minded individuals, especially when dealing with such emotionally charged discussions.</p>
<p>More than one blogger has emailed me to say that they were dropping me from the blogroll because they hate a position I have taken.</p>
<p>It is far easier to do that than to do try and determine if the <i>opposition</i> has a valid point of view.</p>Alan commented on 'No one to blame but myself'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503ed26688332007-04-30T14:34:42Z2008-02-14T04:50:10ZAlanI love you Trep, but it seems like you got just what you were asking for in the previous post,...<p>I love you Trep, but it seems like you got just what you were asking for in the previous post, and it wasn't as bad as you're saying. You fired off an ultimatum at the Left. And one of their more colorful characters came back with an argument. It was rough, but it seemed to me that there was a fair amount of real give-and-take going on, along with people on both sides being willing to re-evaluate the sources of their information and opinions.</p>PP commented on 'No one to blame but myself'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503ed6ca88332007-04-30T10:01:26Z2008-02-14T04:50:51ZPPhttp://goingslightlymad.blogspot.comNow now David, just because the Arutz Sheva Readership TM branded you a Raving Loony Leftist Moonbat for writing "Ibrahim's...<p>Now now David, just because the Arutz Sheva Readership TM branded you a Raving Loony Leftist Moonbat for writing "Ibrahim's Mirror" doesn't qualify you for that label, alas...:)</p>
<p>I too felt you were setting yourself up for tremendous disappointment when I read your post yesterday, and even more so on reading your initial reactions to Mobius' first round of return fire. But in this climate, it is increasingly difficult to find appropriate conditions for a reasonable discussion, especially when all are so dismissive/suspicious/blind (scratch as appropriate) to the view of the other before we've even began. And that's not your fault at all. Add to that the fact that proclaimed political leanings don't often correlate with sense, coherent notions of policy, emotional etc in any one person, and you can see why it was never going to be a "balanced discussion". <br />
Sometimes you can break as many eggs as you like, but you still can't make a decent omelette if you haven't got any milk and margarine and a pinch of seasoning... or, for that matter, a frying pan- and hey, a large enough stove to mix it all together on! So maybe we need to find us a big stove... </p>