Comments on Quote of the dayTypePad2007-01-07T12:33:13ZDavid Bognerhttps://www.treppenwitz.com/tag:typepad.com,2003:https://www.treppenwitz.com/2007/01/quote_of_the_da/comments/atom.xml/Lioness commented on 'Quote of the day'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5505256ba88342007-01-11T11:57:02Z2008-02-14T04:49:14ZLionesshttp://whichsurprisedher.blogspot.com*Stands on top of the world to clap* EXACTLY! This, btw, is the post I've been trying to comment on,...<p>*Stands on top of the world to clap*</p>
<p>EXACTLY! This, btw, is the post I've been trying to comment on, and now I'm left with nothing much to say other than EXACTLY! Although, after viewing the PETA shechitah video for a paper I wrote on the subject, I am forced to say - bcs I dislike them loads in general - and Green Peace, don't get me started on them either - that they truly, and sadly, were right. What galls me is that they systematically pick on the one side only.</p>Evan commented on 'Quote of the day'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503ecb5a88332007-01-09T13:19:07Z2008-02-14T04:49:00ZEvanhttp://www.planetisrael.blogspot.comAs they say, "He who hates humanity hates the Jews."<p>As they say, "He who hates humanity hates the Jews."<br />
</p>Balabusta in Blue Jeans commented on 'Quote of the day'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503eca9588332007-01-09T04:55:52Z2008-02-14T04:48:54ZBalabusta in Blue Jeanshttp://balabustabluejeans.blogspot.com"Israel treating with the Palestinians is as much a waste as Americans a century and a half ago treating with...<p>"Israel treating with the Palestinians is as much a waste as Americans a century and a half ago treating with plains Indians and for the same reason: they are not one people."</p>
<p>Riiiiight--because Americans kept treaties with organized Indian nations with such scrupulous care...</p>
<p>I agree about the Palestinians' situation, actually, more's the pity.</p>Balabusta in Blue Jeans commented on 'Quote of the day'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e55052551a88342007-01-09T04:50:26Z2008-02-14T04:48:58ZBalabusta in Blue Jeanshttp://balabustabluejeans.blogspot.com"When is the last time a gay group told Saudi Arabia to treat gays more justly (not to mention to...<p>"When is the last time a gay group told Saudi Arabia to treat gays more justly (not to mention to allow gay marriage)? "</p>
<p>Don't know about Saudi, but IGLHRC has requested that the UN investigate executions of gay men in Iran. (I don't think it got them real far.)</p>Irina commented on 'Quote of the day'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503eced188332007-01-09T04:28:29Z2008-02-14T04:49:37ZIrinahttp://sicat222.blogspot.comThe truth is....no one cares about Palestinians. Or what happens to Palestinians (or their animals for that matter). Remember the...<p>The truth is....no one cares about Palestinians. Or what happens to Palestinians (or their animals for that matter). Remember the British mentality back then (the mandate and before) Nothing's changed. On the political level, the supposed pity for Palestinians is just rhetoric for the masses. To Europeans (and everyone else), Israel (and the Palestinians) is still just a small piece of the great Middle Eastern puzzle. And they *want* the chaos and the conflict to persist. It's not just anti-Semitism, it's not just chickenheartedness. We're dealing with very cynical yet short-sighted politicking that's been going on for the past century, and from which no one's learned one bit. European leaders care about their votes. They don't care what happens in the next generation.</p>The Back of the Hill commented on 'Quote of the day'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e55052581688342007-01-08T22:17:55Z2008-02-14T04:49:30ZThe Back of the Hill http://atthebackofthehill.blogspot.com/Okay, vicious sarcasm and bigotry here: the reason why no one says anything about Muslims killing Muslims OR Muslims whacking...<p>Okay, vicious sarcasm and bigotry here: the reason why no one says anything about Muslims killing Muslims OR Muslims whacking terrified goats is because no one expects beasts of prey to do otherwise.</p>
<p>See, in most of the civilized world, wolves have been exterminated, but people treasure the few that are left, provided they don't leave the nature-parks and invade people's backyards. If they do, animal control gets called (and the next day the local papers receive angry mail about cruelty to animals beautiful wild beasts precious nature blabla min kol ha blablayim.</p>
<p>Sarcasm ends here. </p>SnoopyTheGoon commented on 'Quote of the day'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503ecae688332007-01-08T19:51:55Z2008-02-14T04:48:57ZSnoopyTheGoonhttp://simplyjews.blogspot.com/I am in a cynical mood today, so: David: 1. For every killed Gazzan afew new ones are getting from...<p>I am in a cynical mood today, so:</p>
<p>David:</p>
<p>1. For every killed Gazzan afew new ones are getting from the oven.<br />
2. For every expended bullet a new magazine is being passed through the tunnel.<br />
3. As for PETA:<br />
3a) you should regret mixing treif with morons ;-)<br />
3b) If you wish, I can check via Meryl where the next EATAPETA bash is being held.<br />
4. As a carnivore I bleed for any chunk of meat I consume... nah, I have already apologized to all the past and future critters I have and will ever consume. We made peace.<br />
5. And re EuroLefties - they have passed long ago into the category of useless idiots. It is US Lefties we should be more concerned now lest they become useful.</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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</p>antares commented on 'Quote of the day'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e55052568888342007-01-08T19:28:00Z2008-02-14T04:49:12ZantaresThe really sad thing is that many Muslims don't care about fighting Israel and just want to live their lives...<p>The really sad thing is that many Muslims don't care about fighting Israel and just want to live their lives and care for their children and be left alone to do that. But there will always be that 2% on the far left of the bell curve determined to take themselves out of the gene pool. The pity is that they want company on their last voyage.</p>antares commented on 'Quote of the day'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5505259a588342007-01-08T19:06:13Z2008-02-14T04:49:45ZantaresThe problem lies with the term "Palestinians" which treats a collection of warring Bedouin tribes as if they were one...<p>The problem lies with the term "Palestinians" which treats a collection of warring Bedouin tribes as if they were one political entity (kudos to Jordan Hirsch for pointing out that they are not). Israel treating with the Palestinians is as much a waste as Americans a century and a half ago treating with plains Indians and for the same reason: they are not one people. Worse, the word of one war chief -- for example, Yasser Arafat -- does not bind another man, so treaties are unproductive.</p>
<p>The irony is that these raiders depend upon the fruits of the civilization that they attack. Without Israel, the West Bank and Gaza would revert to unproductive desert.</p>
<p>Discovering ways to improve their financial lot internally would be a more productive use of the "Palestinians'" time than firebombing busses of Israelis but would not yield the immediate visceral satisfaction. It takes different skills to organize for peace than for war.</p>
<p>I don't have an answer. But neither does Olmert.</p>soccerdad commented on 'Quote of the day'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5505257a388342007-01-08T17:08:27Z2008-02-14T04:49:24Zsoccerdadhttp://profile.typekey.com/dhg4/Sharks and Jets? Indeed. It's been like that since (at least) 1983. Why anyone thought Arafat was a true revolutionary...<p>Sharks and Jets? Indeed. It's been like that since (at least) <a href="http://www.danielpipes.org/article/165" rel="nofollow">1983</a>. Why anyone thought Arafat was a true revolutionary rather than a latter day Corleone (to borrow another popular culture reference) given his record is a triumph of the PR machine working for him.</p>soccerdad commented on 'Quote of the day'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5505254de88342007-01-08T17:08:26Z2008-02-14T04:48:57Zsoccerdadhttp://profile.typekey.com/dhg4/Sharks and Jets? Indeed. It's been like that since (at least) 1983. Why anyone thought Arafat was a true revolutionary...<p>Sharks and Jets? Indeed. It's been like that since (at least) <a href="http://www.danielpipes.org/article/165" rel="nofollow">1983</a>. Why anyone thought Arafat was a true revolutionary rather than a latter day Corleone (to borrow another popular culture reference) given his record is a triumph of the PR machine working for him.</p>Jack commented on 'Quote of the day'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e55052583c88342007-01-08T08:47:23Z2008-02-14T04:49:31ZJackhttp://wwwjackbenimble.blogspot.com/The longer I live the more clear it becomes that we can only rely upon ourselves.<p>The longer I live the more clear it becomes that we can only rely upon ourselves.</p>Elisson commented on 'Quote of the day'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e55052555a88342007-01-08T06:04:54Z2008-02-14T04:49:00ZElissonhttp://elisson1.blogspot.comAnother excellent post. As Meryl Yourish likes to say, "What time is it? It's Israel Double Standard time!" Don't ever...<p>Another excellent post.</p>
<p>As Meryl Yourish likes to say, "What time is it? It's Israel Double Standard time!" Don't ever expect the Islamic world - or anyone else, for that matter - to be held to the same standards as Israel. Not gonna happen.</p>
<p>As for PETA, a bigger bunch of misguided hypocrites would be hard to find. Any group that seriously tries to compare the slaughter of chickens for human consumption to the Holocaust, as PETA has done in the past, is beneath contempt.</p>Scott Fleming commented on 'Quote of the day'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503ecb3a88332007-01-08T05:57:08Z2008-02-14T04:48:59ZScott Fleming1. Anti-semitic irreligious eletists bent on exterminating Jews and Christians. 2. I'll settle for just killing combatants and their controllers....<p>1. Anti-semitic irreligious eletists bent on exterminating Jews and Christians.</p>
<p>2. I'll settle for just killing combatants and their controllers. That's still several million. As to me verses them ..... I'm with the good guys so though it reveals my prejudices I simply think WE have a greater claim to survival and a future on this planet. Its pretty clear the other team has drawn the line in the sand. There's just not enough room in this world for the both of us ... by their definition.</p>Jordan Hirsch commented on 'Quote of the day'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e550525cdd88342007-01-08T05:18:37Z2008-02-14T04:50:14ZJordan HirschWell, two points. One, addressed t Seattle, is that even Israel does not believe that Gaza and the West Bank...<p>Well, two points. One, addressed t Seattle, is that even Israel does not believe that Gaza and the West Bank are part of Israel. Palestinians get to choose their own leaders, but what israel has done in reaction to the election of Hamas is refuse to deal with them, and freeze some of the taxes collected on their behalf. So it's not that there has been no consequences suffered by Hamas. <br />
Two, I don't know Dave, but I think that more and more people realize that until the Palestinians set their own house in order, there is very little for Israel to do. The fact that the Carters and Bakers of the world seem to get more play may be a function of their name recognition. I don't think there are many serious mainstream politicians in the US who believe the Palestinian situation is stable enough for Israel to be able to get anything done. For the most part this crosses party lines. As for Europe, well, I think they live in such fear of a Muslim explosion within ther own borders that they are constitutionall incapable of viewing the situation dispassionately.<br />
</p>treppenwitz commented on 'Quote of the day'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503eca4d88332007-01-08T04:06:01Z2008-02-14T04:48:52Ztreppenwitzhttp://www.treppenwitz.commarallyn... Now all I can think of is Frosted Flakes. Thanks. :-) rahel... You keep surprising me. :-) Sarak... Thank...<p>marallyn... Now all I can think of is Frosted Flakes. Thanks. :-)</p>
<p>rahel... You keep surprising me. :-)</p>
<p>Sarak... Thank you. </p>
<p>jordan... Then why are all your friends on the left pushing Israel to deal with these tribal thugs? Great WSS line though.</p>
<p>Scott... And you'd call them...?</p>
<p>Seattle... That's a whole other post, but simply put the Palestinian's have enjoyed political autonomy for some time now and Israel was obliged to allow them to hold free and open elections. The kick in the head is that the Palis were told y EVERYONE that if they chose Hamas they would be isolated.. only they haven't quite had the nads to hold them to that.</p>
<p>Barzilai... It's not that we fight amongst ourselves... it's HOW we fight.</p>
<p>uberimma... Actually people in my shul are armed to the teeth... but I get your point. :-)</p>
<p>Scott Fleming... While I share your basic sentiment about their call to all out war, I find your comment about millions of dead Muslims callous in light of your own greedy wish to remain alive.</p>
<p>Doctor Bean... I also love Scott for saying many of the things I think but won't say. But that editing mechanism is what separates us from the savages.</p>Doctor Bean commented on 'Quote of the day'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5505255e088342007-01-08T01:05:17Z2008-02-14T04:49:05ZDoctor BeanOf course. Lefty groups are never against racism or homophobia or targeting civilians or sexism or capital punishment. Liberal groups...<p>Of course. Lefty groups are never against racism or homophobia or targeting civilians or sexism or capital punishment. Liberal groups are against the West doing those things. When is the last time a gay group told Saudi Arabia to treat gays more justly (not to mention to allow gay marriage)? When did Greenpeace protest polution in totalitarian countries (which have much worse polution than in developed countries)? The left uses liberal principles as a bludgeon against the West, but the left can only exist in the West. That's why ultimately the Left is suicidal.</p>
<p>Scott Fleming: I think I love you.</p>Scott Fleming commented on 'Quote of the day'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5505258e188342007-01-08T00:45:15Z2008-02-14T04:49:38ZScott FlemingI think it's really time for a full-on war with Islam. Think of it as a clash of civilizations ......<p>I think it's really time for a full-on war with Islam. Think of it as a clash of civilizations ... religious war .... whatever but Islam has openly challenged the West to total war. Repeatedly ... blatantly and in every way one can think of. Their spokesmen regularly tell us that their god is God and that the West is spiritually dead and in need of conquering. Well lets give em what they so desperately want. They need to be shown finally and without dispute whose civilization is superior. They need to understand this just like the Japanese were forced to admit it or the Germans. I'd guess this will require many many millions of dead muslims. Damn! I hope I live to see it.</p>uberimma commented on 'Quote of the day'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5505254b788342007-01-08T00:15:36Z2008-02-14T04:48:55Zuberimmahttp://doornumberthree.blogspot.comYeah, but Barzilai--we don't hang out in front of each others' shuls on Shabbos with guns in our Borsalinos. There's...<p>Yeah, but Barzilai--we don't hang out in front of each others' shuls on Shabbos with guns in our Borsalinos. There's a difference.</p>Barzilai commented on 'Quote of the day'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503ecb7488332007-01-08T00:00:12Z2008-02-14T04:49:02ZBarzilaihttp://havolim.blogspot.comThe local Arabs, unfortunately, are demonstrating our common roots. I wish the quote of the week wouldn't apply as well...<p>The local Arabs, unfortunately, are demonstrating our common roots. I wish the quote of the week wouldn't apply as well to us.</p>Seattle commented on 'Quote of the day'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503ec9ec88332007-01-07T19:39:56Z2008-02-14T04:48:48ZSeattle"No better than the Jets and Sharks, without the dancing" - that's just funny, Jordan. I agree with the post...<p>"No better than the Jets and Sharks, without the dancing" - that's just funny, Jordan.</p>
<p>I agree with the post completely. But it raised a thought for me, if I might ask it here. When Hamas came to power, why didn't Israel put a nix on that? What I mean is, they are still in Israel territory, and they are not their own country - so isn't it illegal to have a party in power who disavows the right of the country to exist? For example, you can vote for anyone here in the U.S. for an office, but they have to support the Constitution and swear loyalty to the U.S. Any group elected in Israel should be required to swear to the same loyalties, to support the state of Israel, no? Along with looking out for their constituents. Hamas and the gangsters should not be tolerated, period. They simply should not be there right now, even if it requires military force to shut them down. That was the big lie: that you should be allowed to vote for anybody, including te--rists.</p>
<p>Jordan is right. There are no partners for peace, because gangsters are running Palestine, (and my words following) idiots are running Washington, a bunch of pansies are running Europe. Maybe the political landscape can be changed, as many individuals support Israel.</p>
<p>But if Israel protects itself, more power to it.</p>
<p>Once, behind the school, I was attacked by a bunch of bullies. I tried to escape, and then I took it until I could take no more. No one would help me. Finally I had to put one in the hospital by a very brutal move. The rest backed off. No one I ever told the story to ever faulted me for that defense. It wasn't as grand as that story you told once (Treppenwitz), but sometimes things just are not "just", and you gotta do what you gotta do.</p>Scott Fleming commented on 'Quote of the day'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503ecaf788332007-01-07T19:34:03Z2008-02-14T04:48:57ZScott FlemingGreat post except for your charity towards the Eurabian Left in calling them usefull idiots.<p>Great post except for your charity towards the Eurabian Left in calling them usefull idiots.</p>Jordan Hirsch commented on 'Quote of the day'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e55052586188342007-01-07T18:46:33Z2008-02-14T04:49:33ZJordan HirschAnother interesting point about the Palestinian on Palestinian violence is the political meaning of this internal struggle. Thoughtful observers know...<p>Another interesting point about the Palestinian on Palestinian violence is the political meaning of this internal struggle. Thoughtful observers know that until there is a Palestinian polity, rather than a series of rival gangs or tribes (viz. Iraq), Israel has no partner for peace. The question now is whether this is just more gang warfare, or the beginnings of the weeding out process of the gangs no destined to become part of the Palestinian political structure. <br />
Groups like Hamas and Fatah have been posing like political parties. Recent events should serve as a reminder that they are no better than the Jets and Sharks, without the dancing, and even the most wishful leftists, such as myself, have yet to see an actual mature political order emerge other than on the most local level in Palestine. Absent that, progress is well nigh impossible.<br />
</p>Sara K commented on 'Quote of the day'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503ecb4d88332007-01-07T16:17:09Z2008-02-14T04:49:00ZSara Khttp://sarakblog.blogspot.comWonderfully said.<p>Wonderfully said.</p>Rahel commented on 'Quote of the day'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503ecccc88332007-01-07T16:03:51Z2008-02-14T04:49:13ZRahelhttp://profile.typekey.com/Rahel/Makes sense to me.<p>Makes sense to me.</p>marallyn commented on 'Quote of the day'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503ecb6f88332007-01-07T14:44:05Z2008-02-14T04:49:01Zmarallynhttp://www.shalomfromjerusalem.blogspot.comGREATTTTTTTTTTT post...pretty scary, no? shavuah tov trepp<p>GREATTTTTTTTTTT post...pretty scary, no? shavuah tov trepp</p>