Comments on Truncated: A fitting symbolTypePad2006-10-09T10:14:32ZDavid Bognerhttps://www.treppenwitz.com/tag:typepad.com,2003:https://www.treppenwitz.com/2006/10/truncated_a_sym/comments/atom.xml/mcaryeh commented on 'Truncated: A fitting symbol'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503ec47088332006-11-05T04:22:24Z2008-02-14T04:47:40Zmcaryehhttp://awhisperingsoul.blogspot.comInteresting that they did not deface the monument itself...I hope the families in question take the same view of the...<p>Interesting that they did not deface the monument itself...I hope the families in question take the same view of the tree stumps as you, and do not feel the pain of loss anew...</p>Balabusta in Blue Jeans commented on 'Truncated: A fitting symbol'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e550524ff088342006-10-14T19:29:48Z2008-02-14T04:47:57ZBalabusta in Blue Jeanshttp://www.balabustabluejeans.blogspot.comSanta Clara is not a suburb of San Francisco...and the Jews of the City bury our dead at Colma, just...<p>Santa Clara is not a suburb of San Francisco...and the Jews of the City bury our dead at Colma, just like everyone else. Wyatt Earp is buried in a Jewish cemetery in Colma.</p>
<p>Many years ago, when I worked briefly for the JNF, I ran across a man who vividly described his experiences collecting money for JNF as a child in the thirties. Apparently the kids would go out carolling on the subway at Christmas--good money to be collected there--and if you went out after dinner and launched into the right medley of Irish tunes, the Irishmen coming home from the pub would turn out their pockets for land in Palestine. Irish Litvak that I am, I love the notion that there are little patches of Israel bought by Flanagans and Murphys for the sake of "When Irish Eyes Are Smiling".</p>Lynn B. commented on 'Truncated: A fitting symbol'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503ec12a88332006-10-12T23:17:34Z2008-02-14T04:47:09ZLynn B.http://incontext.blogmosis.comWonderful post. The Kennedy Memorial in the Jerusalem Forest is a good example of the imagery David is talking about....<p>Wonderful post.</p>
<p>The Kennedy Memorial in the Jerusalem Forest is a good example of the imagery David is talking about.</p>
<p>http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/vie/Jerusalem4.html#Forest</p>Barzilai commented on 'Truncated: A fitting symbol'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e550524f2388342006-10-12T18:02:45Z2008-02-14T04:47:48ZBarzilaihttp://www.havolim.blogspot.com/Of course they would do that. They will kill anything that expresses the Jewish presence in Eretz Yisroel. But I...<p>Of course they would do that. They will kill anything that expresses the Jewish presence in Eretz Yisroel.</p>
<p>But I would think that a judiciously placed movement-triggered camera that would record their destructive visits might enable a nocturnal visit by interested Jews to the malefactors as they sleep in their beds, or whatever they sleep on, perhaps their camels or their younger siblings.</p>Barzilai commented on 'Truncated: A fitting symbol'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503ec15f88332006-10-12T18:02:40Z2008-02-14T04:47:10ZBarzilaihttp://www.havolim.blogspot.com/Of course they would do that. They will kill anything that expresses the Jewish presence in Eretz Yisroel. But I...<p>Of course they would do that. They will kill anything that expresses the Jewish presence in Eretz Yisroel.</p>
<p>But I would think that a judiciously placed movement-triggered camera that would record their destructive visits might enable a nocturnal visit by interested Jews to the malefactors as they sleep in their beds, or whatever they sleep on, perhaps their camels or their younger siblings.</p>Elisson commented on 'Truncated: A fitting symbol'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e550524ab488342006-10-10T16:42:20Z2008-02-14T04:47:02ZElissonhttp://elisson1.blogspot.comAnd that, in a nutshell, is the essence of the Israeli-Arab struggle. It's a conflict between a culture of life...<p>And that, in a nutshell, is the essence of the Israeli-Arab struggle. It's a conflict between a culture of life - a culture that plants trees and builds greenhouses - and a culture of death that cuts down trees and razes greenhouses.</p>
<p>In my heart of hearts, I must believe that life will have ultimate victory over death.</p>Jack commented on 'Truncated: A fitting symbol'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e550524b7788342006-10-10T14:59:26Z2008-02-14T04:47:11ZJackhttp://wwwjackbenimble.blogspot.com/Hi Nighthawk, Thank you. I knew that someone would understand.<p>Hi Nighthawk,</p>
<p>Thank you. I knew that someone would understand. <br />
</p>Nighthawk700 commented on 'Truncated: A fitting symbol'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e550524e4d88342006-10-10T13:02:37Z2008-02-14T04:47:38ZNighthawk700http://profile.typekey.com/Nighthawk700/Ents: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ents If you saw Lord of the Rings, they were the big, tree like creatures who you would NOT...<p>Ents: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ents</p>
<p>If you saw Lord of the Rings, they were the big, tree like creatures who you would NOT want to mess with. They are shepherds of trees, and do not appreciate people cutting them down. <br />
</p>treppenwitz commented on 'Truncated: A fitting symbol'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e550524fff88342006-10-10T10:02:58Z2008-02-14T04:47:59Ztreppenwitzhttp://www.treppenwitz.comMarallyn... Good to hear. Thanks. pk... Every time I think you can't possibly surprise me any more... you do. Yikes!...<p>Marallyn... Good to hear. Thanks.</p>
<p>pk... Every time I think you can't possibly surprise me any more... you do. Yikes!</p>
<p>Val... My thoughts exactly. But shhhhh, don't tell the Arabs.</p>
<p>SF Lisa... Take a stroll around any Jewish cemetary in the states (I know there aren't any in SF proper, but maybe in the 'burbs like Santa Clara) and you are bound to see plenty of headstones carved like tree trunks.</p>
<p>Bernie... That may well be, but this is just plain old ignorance and hate at work. I don't think we need to look up Koranic sources in order to assign blame.</p>
<p>Irina... First off, it is important to clarify that this is not the man's grave but rather a memorial to him at the site where he was killed. But it obviously still deserves respect.</p>
<p>Jack... Ents???</p>
<p>Chantyshira... As I mentioned to Irina, this was not his grave but rather a memorial marker at the spot where he was killed. But I like your idea anyway.</p>
<p>Joe Settler... I was waiting for the first comment about settlers allegedly cutting down olive trees. Obviously I didn't expect it from you! :-) I have a few draft posts written (that will probably never see the light of day) about this particular blood libel describing evil settlers cutting down Arab trees and harassing Arabs during the harvest. There have been some well documented cases of Arabs cutting down their own trees to assign blame on 'settlers' and of them calling the press after routine pruning (done by Arabs) to show the press how the Jews cut down their trees. Unfortunately there have been a tiny number of settlers who have acted badly (cutting down trees or attacked Arabs during the harvest) so all subsequent complaints are treated by the army and police as valid until proven otherwise.</p>
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</p>JoeSettler commented on 'Truncated: A fitting symbol'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503ec57788332006-10-10T08:18:37Z2008-02-14T04:47:51ZJoeSettlerhttp://www.joesettler.comBut I keep reading on YNET, Haaretz, Peace Now, and Rabbis for Human rights that it is the settlers that...<p>But I keep reading on YNET, Haaretz, Peace Now, and Rabbis for Human rights that it is the settlers that are cutting down all the trees.</p>
<p>I don't understand!</p>Chantyshira commented on 'Truncated: A fitting symbol'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e550524ea888342006-10-09T21:44:55Z2008-02-14T04:47:43ZChantyshirahttp://xanga.com/chantyshiraWhat a powerful image, and ironic twist. But may I suggest that whatever tree is planted next to a gravestone...<p>What a powerful image, and ironic twist. But may I suggest that whatever tree is planted next to a gravestone from now on include a hidden container of pepper spray inside the trunk. The first vandal who cuts up that baby will think twice before messing with the Jews again!!</p>Jack commented on 'Truncated: A fitting symbol'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e550524e5c88342006-10-09T21:41:49Z2008-02-14T04:47:38ZJackhttp://wwwjackbenimble.blogspot.com/Is there any way to prevent such acts of vandalism without having to put someone to guard every monument? (which...<p><i>Is there any way to prevent such acts of vandalism without having to put someone to guard every monument? (which is obviously impossible)</i></p>
<p>Hire a couple of Ents to watch over them.</p>Irina commented on 'Truncated: A fitting symbol'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503ec75b88332006-10-09T21:25:41Z2008-02-14T04:48:25ZIrinahttp://sicat222.blogspot.comWhat a strong, strong image. However, the lack of respect for the graves of the terror victims is an issue...<p>What a strong, strong image. However, the lack of respect for the graves of the terror victims is an issue of separate concern for me. Is there any way to prevent such acts of vandalism without having to put someone to guard every monument? (which is obviously impossible)</p>bernie commented on 'Truncated: A fitting symbol'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e550524a7488342006-10-09T17:46:26Z2008-02-14T04:46:59Zberniehttp://plancksconstant.orgIt may be interesting to note that the Old Testament has beautiful stories with evocative images. Anyone that has read...<p>It may be interesting to note that the Old Testament has beautiful stories with evocative images. Anyone that has read the Quran already knows that there are no beautiful stories but only instructions on military conquest. You are what you read.<br />
</p>SF Lisa commented on 'Truncated: A fitting symbol'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503ec31388332006-10-09T13:40:09Z2008-02-14T04:47:26ZSF Lisahttp://www.livejournal.com/~wildroze22the tree is such an amazing symbol. ive never really seen a tomb shaped like a tree trunk though, it...<p>the tree is such an amazing symbol. ive never really seen a tomb shaped like a tree trunk though, it would be interesting to see.</p>
<p>its always sort of fitting when vandalism only serves to strengthen a monument or area.</p>val commented on 'Truncated: A fitting symbol'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5505251eb88342006-10-09T13:12:30Z2008-02-14T04:48:27Zvalhttp://bogieval.blogs.com/valcentric/Nice post and pics - a cut down tree more aptly symobolizes the tragedy in a really stark and more...<p>Nice post and pics - a cut down tree more aptly symobolizes the tragedy in a really stark and more impacting way.</p>pk commented on 'Truncated: A fitting symbol'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503ec4b988332006-10-09T13:07:16Z2008-02-14T04:47:44ZpkUntil I tasted a guava growing on an old grave site I couldn’t understand why I was warned not to...<p>Until I tasted a guava growing on an old grave site I couldn’t understand why I was warned not to eat from that tree, the fruits seemed very ripe, and until I satisfied my boyish greed, only then did I realize that the fruit strangely didn’t taste that well, it was tasteless. There’s a lot that can’t be seen by any terrorist before they kill, but afterwards, it might be for a couple virgins or their lifetime, they finally realize how it was all in vain. </p>
<p>(Caveat: I am not a spook, that was then and no nostalgia there either, David) :-) <br />
</p>marallyn commented on 'Truncated: A fitting symbol'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503ec1e188332006-10-09T11:46:13Z2008-02-14T04:47:16Zmarallynhttp://shalomfromjerusalem.blogspot.comholy cow trepp...what a strong post...i love trees and never thought of that...won't forget it now...thanks<p>holy cow trepp...what a strong post...i love trees and never thought of that...won't forget it now...thanks</p>