Comments on It couldn't possibly hurtTypePad2005-08-15T08:15:47ZDavid Bognerhttps://www.treppenwitz.com/tag:typepad.com,2003:https://www.treppenwitz.com/2005/08/it_couldnt_poss/comments/atom.xml/Jonathan Edelstein commented on 'It couldn't possibly hurt'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e55052174e88342005-08-18T22:39:48Z2008-02-14T04:37:49ZJonathan Edelsteinhttp://headheeb.blogmosis.comThis is terrible news. He will be in my prayers as well.<p>This is terrible news. He will be in my prayers as well.<br />
</p>David commented on 'It couldn't possibly hurt'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503e8b7188332005-08-17T21:37:58Z2008-02-14T04:37:51ZDavidhttp://www.treppenwitz.comDoctor Bean... Sometimes curse words aren't enough. Psychotoddler... The hard part for me is that the sniper who was shooting...<p>Doctor Bean... Sometimes curse words aren't enough. </p>
<p>Psychotoddler... The hard part for me is that the sniper who was shooting at the Israelis (and set the events leading to Elroi's injury in motion) was somebody's son. I can't forgive them for filling him with such blind hatred.</p>
<p>og... I can't even imagine when that might be.</p>
<p>Zemirah... Thank you. I have mentioned to his parents that some very nice people around the world have their son in mind.</p>
<p>Mirty... I'll do my best. So far no change.</p>
<p>Stacey... I can't answer your question about land for peace. Israel is the only country in the history of the world that has ever tried it... and so far it doesn't look like a promising solution.</p>
<p>Toni... That makes two of us (at very least).</p>
<p>Jennifer... Amen.</p>
<p>Maria... Go figure! :-)</p>
<p>Sandra... Thanks. I'll do that.</p>
<p>Yid... I would go so far as to say every life is precious... but when our enemies don't even value their own lives, how can we expect them to put any value on ours?</p>
<p>Cato... Politicians say a lot of things. I can only hope that he has a plan B for when the next round of attacks begin.</p>
<p>Marie... As I said, it couldn't possibly hurt. Thank you.</p>
<p>Carol... Thanks. I'd like that too.</p>
<p>David... Thank you. Based on where you're writing from I'm guessing you have a better-than-average understanding of the risks that soldiers take. I'll be sure to share your thoughts.</p>David All commented on 'It couldn't possibly hurt'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5505216cb88342005-08-17T20:13:30Z2008-02-14T04:37:45ZDavid AllDavid, I am keeping young Elroi and his family in my prayers, too. I also pray that Israel comes through...<p>David, I am keeping young Elroi and his family in my prayers, too. I also pray that Israel comes through the withdrawl from Gaza in good shape and united for the struggle to come. </p>Carol commented on 'It couldn't possibly hurt'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5505215e288342005-08-17T18:34:56Z2008-02-14T04:37:37ZCarolhttp://ordinarygoddess.blogspot.comDavid, young Elroi is in my prayers and thoughts, as is his family. I am also keeping everyone being affected...<p>David, young Elroi is in my prayers and thoughts, as is his family. I am also keeping everyone being affected by the disengagement(which seems to be everyone in Israel, in one way or another) in my thoughts.</p>
<p>Take care, be well, and may your car be full again soon.</p>Marie commented on 'It couldn't possibly hurt'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503e8c2988332005-08-16T22:18:48Z2008-02-14T04:37:56ZMarieI am not Jewish, but we pray to the same God. I will start a novena to the Blessed Mother...<p>I am not Jewish, but we pray to the same God. I will start a novena to the Blessed Mother for him tonight. </p>Cato the Elder commented on 'It couldn't possibly hurt'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5505215ac88342005-08-16T20:12:38Z2008-02-14T04:37:35ZCato the ElderGood Lord, have mercy. I'm so upset by all this. And Sharon said the "disengagement" would never take place under...<p>Good Lord, have mercy.</p>
<p>I'm so upset by all this. And Sharon said the "disengagement" would never take place under fire.</p>
<p>I pray for all of you in Israel.</p>a yid commented on 'It couldn't possibly hurt'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503e89ef88332005-08-16T16:48:49Z2008-02-14T04:37:40Za yidThis is so sad. Every Jewish life is so precious, I pray for Elroi - may Hashem gives him a...<p>This is so sad. Every Jewish life is so precious, I pray for Elroi - may Hashem gives him a complete and speedy recovery.</p>Sandra commented on 'It couldn't possibly hurt'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e55052184888342005-08-16T11:46:39Z2008-02-14T04:37:58ZSandraMy deepest sympathy and best vibes for Elroi. Please keep us posted on how he's doing.<p>My deepest sympathy and best vibes for Elroi. Please keep us posted on how he's doing. </p>Maria commented on 'It couldn't possibly hurt'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503e8ccb88332005-08-16T08:09:33Z2008-02-14T04:38:02ZMariahttp://hatshepsut.mu.nuI just still can't believe you have 5 other visitors from Iceland, ehrm..<p>I just still can't believe you have 5 other visitors from Iceland, ehrm..</p>jennifer commented on 'It couldn't possibly hurt'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5505215e588342005-08-16T07:46:28Z2008-02-14T04:37:37Zjenniferhttp://www.just-jennifer.com/Wishing Elroi Refuah Shlaymah on a personal level and to all of us on a national level.<p>Wishing Elroi Refuah Shlaymah on a personal level and to all of us on a national level.</p>Toni commented on 'It couldn't possibly hurt'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503e8a5288332005-08-16T05:29:20Z2008-02-14T04:37:43ZToniMy thoughts and prayers are with Elroi and his family. I sure hope Sharon knows what he is doing.<p>My thoughts and prayers are with Elroi and his family. I sure hope Sharon knows what he is doing. </p>Stacey commented on 'It couldn't possibly hurt'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5505216da88342005-08-16T03:19:38Z2008-02-14T04:37:45ZStaceyhttp://pesharachel.blogspot.comI am so saddened to hear this devastating news about your neighbor. My thoughts and prayers are with Elroi. I...<p>I am so saddened to hear this devastating news about your neighbor. My thoughts and prayers are with Elroi. I pray that he rallies and comes out of his coma unharmed and able to make a full recovery.</p>
<p>I have hardly been able to think of much else besides the disengagement the past several days. I always fast on Yom Kippur, but not typically on Tisha B'av. However, in light of what my brethren are facing in Gaza I fasted this year.</p>
<p>Land for peace. Has it ever worked? I shudder to think that Israel seems to give and give and what does she get in return? <br />
</p>Mirty commented on 'It couldn't possibly hurt'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e55052168588342005-08-16T01:04:48Z2008-02-14T04:37:43ZMirtyhttp://mirty12.blogspot.comI hope you'll update us in the morning with good news. He and his family are in my prayers.<p> I hope you'll update us in the morning with good news. He and his family are in my prayers.</p>zemirah commented on 'It couldn't possibly hurt'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503e89af88332005-08-15T23:30:29Z2008-02-14T04:37:37Zzemirahhttp://jewishjourney.blospot.comMy thoughts and prayers are with Elroi and his family.<p>My thoughts and prayers are with Elroi and his family.</p>og commented on 'It couldn't possibly hurt'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503e8a5888332005-08-15T20:46:07Z2008-02-14T04:37:43Zoghttp://www.neanderpundit.comIn my prayers as well. G-d keep them all and bring them home safe to us when their job is...<p>In my prayers as well. G-d keep them all and bring them home safe to us when their job is done. </p>psychotoddler commented on 'It couldn't possibly hurt'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e550521cee88342005-08-15T20:40:40Z2008-02-14T04:38:44Zpsychotoddlerhttp://psychotoddler.blogspot.comMy wife and I have 4 cousins serving in the IDF now, and every time we hear about soldiers being...<p>My wife and I have 4 cousins serving in the IDF now, and every time we hear about soldiers being injured, we think of them. One of them spent a week here with us earlier in the month.</p>
<p>The world thinks of them as soldiers, but they are our family.</p>Doctor Bean commented on 'It couldn't possibly hurt'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503e8c0f88332005-08-15T20:39:10Z2008-02-14T04:37:56ZDoctor Beanhttp://kerckhoff.blogspot.comOh, David, that is absolutely miserable. Add me and my wife to those wishing Elroi well. I emailed my rabbi...<p>Oh, David, that is absolutely miserable.</p>
<p>Add me and my wife to those wishing Elroi well. I emailed my rabbi a link to this post too.</p>
<p>My mind is filling with curse words as I type. I tried to make another point, but after deleting the same sentence 3 times I realized I'm in no mood for delicate self-expression, so I'll leave it here. Be well.</p>David commented on 'It couldn't possibly hurt'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5505218ca88342005-08-15T18:35:22Z2008-02-14T04:38:04ZDavidhttp://www.treppenwitz.comRahel... I should have known you already had a list. Thank you. Kay... Thank you. A good thought from the...<p>Rahel... I should have known you already had a list. Thank you.</p>
<p>Kay... Thank you. A good thought from the Southern Hemisphere will certainly help.</p>
<p>Pearl... Perhaps the only thing that compares with the pain of knowing someone who is hurt in this ongoing war is the guilt that comes from hearing about an incident and being relieved that none of your friends or relatives was injured. Quite the double-edged sword. I appreciate you davening for Elroi.</p>
<p>Kakarizz... If you listen to any of the interviews with the PA officials in the international media, every other phrase seems to be about "the Israeli defeat and surrender of Gaza. Not surprising though... they have talked themselves into the idea that they won all the wars with 'the Zionist entity'.</p>
<p>Lisa... Thanks. Good thoughts from good people are always welcome/helpful.</p>
<p>Tanya... As I mentioned to Kakarizz, the Arabs have come to believe their own PR. They actually have holidays to mark their victories over the 'Zionist entity'. However, they are smart enough to know that they can't really win a conventional war, so they have become experts at 'low intensity conflict' (i.e. terrorism) and pretending to play the diplomacy game. For some time now they have realized that so long as they don't actually admit defeat, they can will be rewarded for simply showing up to the negotiating table. It boggles the mind. Thank you for thinking of Elroi.</p>
<p>Timna... Me too... thanks.</p>
<p>Essie... It is your choice to be <em>b'sof ma'arav</em>. Of course, as the LZ song says: There's always time to change the road you're on. :-)</p>
<p>Jack... Thanks.</p>
<p>Lioness... That's what everyone said about Oslo. That's what everyone said about Barak's offer at Camp David. It seems that the world has unusually low expectations for the Arab world... and unreasonably high expectations of Israel. I went to visit the family in the hospital this afternoon. I spoke with his father for about 10 minutes and he told me that Elroi had undergone another surgery. apparently the most troubling injury was a bit of shrapnel to the back of the head that has gone in or dangerously near the brain stem. So far he is still in a very deep coma and none of the doctors are making any predictions. When I go to see them again tomorrow I will mention that strangers around the world have their son in their thoughts and prayers. I'm sure it will be a great comfort.</p>
<p>Jaime... Thanks so much.</p>
<p>Lila... We are now past the point of debating the wisdom of disengagement. Now comes the test. I've already mentioned my pessimism of about the results.</p>
<p>tmeishar... I didn't mean to be political. But you're right. One of the things I love about the people who come here is that they don't need to always stake or defend a bit of turf while expressing themselves. There is a time for everything and people seem to be sensitive enough to know that I was not marking turf with today's rant. I hadn't realized it until you pointed it out... but now that you have I am relieved beyond words that people showed restraint.</p>
<p>Tonny... Thanks. If you could have his name added to the list of 'cholim' I would appreciate it.</p>Tonny commented on 'It couldn't possibly hurt'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503e8cda88332005-08-15T17:41:38Z2008-02-14T04:38:03ZTonnyhttp://karbannesanel.blogspot.comoh gosh...i will be iyH (God Willing) davening for elroi too.<p>oh gosh...i will be iyH (God Willing) davening for elroi too. </p>tmeishar commented on 'It couldn't possibly hurt'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503e8aa988332005-08-15T16:56:07Z2008-02-14T04:37:46Ztmeisharhttp://tmeishar.blogspot.comDespite the fact that this is quite possibly one of the most political posts you have ever written - the...<p>Despite the fact that this is quite possibly one of the most political posts you have ever written - the comments you got were those of support and empathy. I guess that's what makes being a Jewish people so special. Even though there is a wide spectrum of ideas, there's always someone to lean on.</p>Lila commented on 'It couldn't possibly hurt'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e55052162a88342005-08-15T16:46:15Z2008-02-14T04:37:40ZLilahttp://rungholt.blogg.de/Oh David, what terrible news. My husband lost his best friend in the middle of a war in a "friendly...<p>Oh David, what terrible news. My husband lost his best friend in the middle of a war in a "friendly fire" accident, there was nothing friendly about it. I pray for Elroi, too, and will ask others to join. Please tell his family that all over the world people pray for him. (Just look at this impressive row of flags you have...) </p>
<p>Although my own opinion (let's be honest and call it a whole bunch of opinions) is different and I see the logic of the pull out, I see your point, definitely. I can only hope you are wrong but... Anyway, I wish I would never again see a sad face in this country, it is heartbreaking. To see soldiers and evacuees crying is terrible. </p>Jaime commented on 'It couldn't possibly hurt'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e55052174f88342005-08-15T15:57:24Z2008-02-14T04:37:49ZJaimeLioness expressed it so well. David, my thoughts are with them too.<p>Lioness expressed it so well. David, my thoughts are with them too.</p>Lioness commented on 'It couldn't possibly hurt'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503e8add88332005-08-15T15:40:06Z2008-02-14T04:37:47ZLionesshttp://lioness-pride.blogspot.com(I don't know how close to the family you are but if you could let them know we are thinking...<p>(I don't know how close to the family you are but if you could let them know we are thinking of him, and we are praying for him... It helps to know strangers in foreign lands are doing what they can as well. It's not hopeless you know, so I can have hope that he will be all right.)</p>Lioness commented on 'It couldn't possibly hurt'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5505215de88342005-08-15T15:37:10Z2008-02-14T04:37:37ZLionesshttp://lioness-pride.blogspot.comI am so sorry, David, so sorry. I'll pray for him, of course I will. May he be one of...<p>I am so sorry, David, so sorry. I'll pray for him, of course I will. May he be one of the lucky ones. </p>
<p>I think one very wonderful thing will come out of this. The Israelis will have withdrawn from Gaza - and nothing will have changed on the Arab side. Nothing. And I will enjoy seeing CNN and BBC, almost the whole world frankly, struggling to justify it. Oh well, there's the West Bank still. Do you think the media will next address the refugee camps in Lebanin and Jordan? No? Me neither. People ask me how I feel abt the Disengagement. To tell you the truth, I've been most effective at not thinking abt it at all. Too tired of it all, am burying my head in the sand right now and skipping all news. Frankly, I see so many avoidable deaths in our immediate future, I cannot quite digest it all. I think you're right, it will be very bad. I think it will be war. Yet again.</p>Jack commented on 'It couldn't possibly hurt'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5505217bc88342005-08-15T15:16:56Z2008-02-14T04:37:53ZJackhttp://wwwjackbenimble.blogspot.com/My thoughts are with him.<p>My thoughts are with him.</p>Essie commented on 'It couldn't possibly hurt'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e55052174688342005-08-15T15:05:39Z2008-02-14T04:37:49ZEssieVery moving...although Tisha B'Av is over, I am still crying today after reading this and thinking about all that is...<p>Very moving...although Tisha B'Av is over, I am still crying today after reading this and thinking about all that is going on in Israel. There were many powerful videos shown yesterday in the US. Libi B'mizrach....</p>timna commented on 'It couldn't possibly hurt'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5505217f788342005-08-15T15:04:51Z2008-02-14T04:37:55Ztimnahttp://gal.typepad.comhe's in my thoughts. thanks for your post. hope your car is full of soldiers and students soon.<p>he's in my thoughts. thanks for your post. hope your car is full of soldiers and students soon.</p>Tanya commented on 'It couldn't possibly hurt'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e55052177388342005-08-15T14:28:05Z2008-02-14T04:37:51ZTanyahttp://www.redsugar.com/muse/"First we take Gaza... next we take Jerusalem!" At the risk of sounding like a cowboy, they have tried this...<p><i>"First we take Gaza... next we take Jerusalem!"</i></p>
<p>At the risk of sounding like a cowboy, they have tried this before, more than once, and had their collective asses handed to them.</p>
<p>More importantly, I know that not one of these brave young men and women is merely a "statistic" to you, and I'm sorry to hear that your friend was injured. He is in my thoughts.</p>lisa commented on 'It couldn't possibly hurt'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e55052175288342005-08-15T13:58:50Z2008-02-14T04:37:49Zlisahttp://weese.blogspot.comI am thinking healing thoughts for your young friend. be well peace.<p>I am thinking healing thoughts for your young friend.<br />
be well<br />
peace.</p>kakarizz commented on 'It couldn't possibly hurt'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5505217df88342005-08-15T10:37:01Z2008-02-14T04:37:55Zkakarizzhttp://kakarizz.blogspot.comIt’s clear to see..... Upon taking over land considered bare/useless and only strategic for Arabs attempting to destroy the Jewish...<p>It’s clear to see..... Upon taking over land considered bare/useless and only strategic for Arabs attempting to destroy the Jewish state, this pieces of land have been turned into agricultural ‘mines’ by settler pioneers. Now that the land is being given back to its "owners" for the sake of peace they want the process to appear as if it was a heroic conquer over the ‘infidels’ and foresee their lifelong dream of one day taking over Jerusalem…. in the process or as a result of, the likes of Lt. Elroi (in my prayers), are seriously injured. </p>
<p>Let’s hope everything goes according to the leadership’s plan, should there be more casualties (G-d forbid)…..I can only bite my teeth and wish I was in the IDF. <br />
</p>Pearl commented on 'It couldn't possibly hurt'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e55052167588342005-08-15T10:21:54Z2008-02-14T04:37:43ZPearlhttp://wwwpearliesofwisdom.blogspot.comIt's so unfortunate that everyone always has to know SOMEONE who gets injured...or worse. Of course we'll daven for him.<p>It's so unfortunate that everyone always has to know SOMEONE who gets injured...or worse.</p>
<p>Of course we'll daven for him.</p>Kay commented on 'It couldn't possibly hurt'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503e906b88332005-08-15T09:50:41Z2008-02-14T04:38:35ZKayhttp://kayoz.typepad.comI occasionally go in for such things and will for Elroi ben Galia Gladys. And the rest of you. Thanks...<p>I occasionally go in for such things and will for Elroi ben Galia Gladys. And the rest of you. Thanks for sharing this story.</p>Rahel commented on 'It couldn't possibly hurt'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503e88fc88332005-08-15T09:43:26Z2008-02-14T04:37:32ZRahelhttp://elmsintheyard.blogspot.comOf course, David. Lt. Elroi is now the newest on my prayer list.<p>Of course, David. Lt. Elroi is now the newest on my prayer list.<br />
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