Comments on What happened to the cell phone vote?TypePad2004-11-03T14:59:38ZDavid Bognerhttps://www.treppenwitz.com/tag:typepad.com,2003:https://www.treppenwitz.com/2004/11/what_happened_t/comments/atom.xml/Jordan commented on 'What happened to the cell phone vote?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503e719088332004-11-05T01:27:54Z2008-02-14T04:33:58ZJordanI must emphasize two points. I am not in favor of a ban on gay marriages. I said i understand...<p>I must emphasize two points.<br />
I am not in favor of a ban on gay marriages. I said i understand those who are.<br />
I also want to point out that in Florida, the israel/Security issue pushed jewish support of Bush from 19% to 24%.<br />
Nationwide, African American support of Bush, presumably based on African Americans as part of the Evangelical churches, went from 8% to 11%. (37% increase.) <br />
No Gay Marriage issue, maybe we win Florida AND Ohio.<br />
</p>David commented on 'What happened to the cell phone vote?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e55051ff5788342004-11-04T19:06:53Z2008-02-14T04:33:57ZDavidhttp://www.treppenwitz.comJordan... I'm just waking up to what an effective strategy Bush used. He figured (correctly, apparently) that most of the...<p>Jordan... I'm just waking up to what an effective strategy Bush used. </p>
<p>He figured (correctly, apparently) that most of the bubba & Bible thumper vote couldn't get their head around the issues that the Democrats were screaming about... so he threw them an issue that <em>was</em> important to them and that they <em>could</em> understand. </p>
<p>And here I was thinking the Jews were the only one-issue voters.</p>Jordan commented on 'What happened to the cell phone vote?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503e71f388332004-11-04T16:14:50Z2008-02-14T04:34:01ZJordanThe percentage of 18-24 year olds of the total vote did not change, but the raw number did go up...<p>The percentage of 18-24 year olds of the total vote did not change, but the raw number did go up considerably. What was not accounted fo in polls was the concurrent increase in Christian fundamentalist voters this time around. Repubicans estimated after the 2000 election that 4 million on the "religious right" did not vote. They were absolutely determined to mine that enormous poll of voters. Think about the size of Bush's victory. This is a president who lost by half a million votes last time, who has turned a $3 Trillion surplus into a $4 trilion deficit, has enmeshed us in a quagmire in Iraq, presided over the 9/11 attacks, has spent 3 years in Afghanistan hunting a terrorist with an army smaller than the NYC police department, plans to gut Social Security, etc..... Didn'y it occur to someone to vote him out of office? But he also made Gay marriages an issue in the last two years. This was the most successful attempt yet to turn the religous right into a formidable voting bloc. I do not agree with my liberal friends that it constitutes an appeal to homophobia. This was a legitimate issue which, while it reflects the strange relationship between religion and policy unique to the US among great democracies, aroused a heretofore sleepy part of the electorate. My fellow Democrats have many lessons to learn from this event. </p>David commented on 'What happened to the cell phone vote?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503e707688332004-11-04T07:07:54Z2008-02-14T04:33:47ZDavidhttp://www.treppenwitz.comTanya... The scary part is it might be something just that simple! If not rain, then maybe they just plain...<p>Tanya... The scary part is it might be something just that simple! If not rain, then maybe they just plain forgot ["Dude! Was election day on Tuesday??? I totally blew that one, huh? heh heh heh..."] I'm sure the draft notices will get their attention, though! :-)</p>
<p>Tina... Just be proud of your candidate that he was big enough to concede like a gentleman. The country is almost equally divided between far right and far left... and there are almost no people (except me, of course) left in the middle. By conductiong himself well at the end, Kerry will hopefully serve as an example and help bring the country together.</p>
<p>Jim... I must not have that font installed on my computer! :-) But I catch your drift. I'll tell you what I've been thinking all along: This is America's opportunity to really explore the role of an opposition party. They have never truly mastered this concept. </p>
<p>Jack... Wonderful point. Too many people get involved in politics only during the campaign, and then go to sleep for four years. No matter who you were rooting for, the time to be engaged in the political process starts <em>after</em> the election!</p>Jim commented on 'What happened to the cell phone vote?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e55051fe2788342004-11-03T23:34:49Z2008-02-14T04:33:47ZJimhttp://www.meatofthematter.blogspot.comJack, I am. We are.<p>Jack,</p>
<p>I am. We are. </p>Jack commented on 'What happened to the cell phone vote?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5505202a988342004-11-03T22:22:17Z2008-02-14T04:34:28ZJackhttp://wwwjackbenimble.blogspot.comThe country is not going to disappear or go up in flames. If you don't like the direction things go...<p>The country is not going to disappear or go up in flames. If you don't like the direction things go in get active and do something about it.</p>Jim commented on 'What happened to the cell phone vote?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503e6ff788332004-11-03T22:20:40Z2008-02-14T04:33:44ZJimhttp://www.meatofthematter.blogspot.com!)(*&%! !@!@$()*& !_)($(!*^ _)!#@$*#$ ^ !(@*)!&@ !@^#(*&@ % )!@#(*&!$ )!$<p>!)(*&%! !@!@$()*& !_)($(!*^ _)!#@$*#$ ^ !(@*)!&@ !@^#(*&@ % )!@#(*&!$ )!$ </p>Tina commented on 'What happened to the cell phone vote?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503e727388332004-11-03T20:11:51Z2008-02-14T04:34:05ZTinahttp://tina-cious.blog-city.comYes... that "wonderous" 18 - 24 group bailed on us big time. Which is why I'm sitting here staring at...<p>Yes... that "wonderous" 18 - 24 group bailed on us big time. Which is why I'm sitting here staring at the naked ugly reality that Bush is going to be haunting my days for yet another 4 years.</p>
<p>::sigh::</p>Tanya commented on 'What happened to the cell phone vote?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503e719a88332004-11-03T19:22:11Z2008-02-14T04:33:58ZTanyahttp://www.redsugar.com/muse/But it rained!<p>But it <i>rained!</i></p>David commented on 'What happened to the cell phone vote?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e55052038688342004-11-03T18:19:41Z2008-02-14T04:34:35ZDavidhttp://www.treppenwitz.comRuss... Good point, but still think that the number of college students and recent graduates nationwide has to be a...<p>Russ... Good point, but still think that the number of college students and recent graduates nationwide has to be a much larger (not to mention overwhelmingly Left Wing) voting block than the phone block crowd.</p>
<p>Beth... What a horrible statistic! I knew it had to be bad, but 17%????</p>Beth commented on 'What happened to the cell phone vote?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e55052005188342004-11-03T17:14:32Z2008-02-14T04:34:04ZBethhttp://bethmauldin.comI've heard that 17% of the 18-24 year olds voted this election - same percentage as last time, which would...<p>I've heard that 17% of the 18-24 year olds voted this election - same percentage as last time, which would mean a few more showed up, but not too many. </p>russ commented on 'What happened to the cell phone vote?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef00e5503e722f88332004-11-03T16:21:01Z2008-02-14T04:34:03ZrussThe cell-phone vote thing was an oversimplification - certainly there are people the pollsters could not reach because they don't...<p>The cell-phone vote thing was an oversimplification - certainly there are people the pollsters could not reach because they don't have publically listed land lines. But there is also another - and possibly larger - group that were inaccessible: those with call blocking. </p>
<p>Some people - especially telemarketers - block caller ID on their phones, so that the people they call cannot call them back and harass them. So many of us have our lines set up so to reject or screen such callers. I suspect that pollsters are thus prevented from getting through to these people as well, and it is likely that this population is overwhelmingly preoccupied with privacy and security - hence leans towards Bush.</p>