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Tuesday, November 16, 2004

Pulp [truth is stranger than] Fiction

Like most people who spend any amount of time posting their ideas and opinions on the Internet, I frequently get nasty or even insulting e-mail. I figure that posting ones views in the public domain means occasionally having to sit quietly while somebody grinds their personal ax in your ear.

No big deal.

In all the time I've been writing here at treppenwitz, I have never 'outed' anyone for sending a confrontational or insulting e-mail… but I'll admit I've been sorely tempted.  In truth, it's just easier to accept the occasional valid (albeit crudely worded) criticism and ignore the crazies.

However, the other day I received an e-mail that truly got under my skin, and I've decided that if I'm going to lose sleep over it... then the author of this little missive is going to see her words up in lights. I won't reveal her name or e-mail address... at least not yet, anyway.  But if she continues to use my inbox in lieu of professional counseling, I may not be able to hold myself back .

I know this sort of pettiness is out of character for me (See Imshin... I'm not so nice after all!), but I really need to pick one troll out of the crowd and make an example of her or my head may explode!

First the e-mail:

"I think you should try a little respest[sic] on the internet, their[sic] are a lot of very religious Jews thinking of making Aliyah, what they don't need, is some one talking in a very careless way. You just don't seem serious about Israel. We are in a dangerous and serious time in our lives, try using a little G-d in your life. Maybe things will start going much better for you."

Now, I had no idea who this person was, or what I might have done to set her off, but clearly something was amiss. My best guesses were that either she had gone off her meds or I had inadvertently written something truly horrible.

First things first, though… I wanted to find out a little about who I was dealing with before e-mailing her back. I 'googled her' using her name and e-mail address and came up with a fairly rational comment she'd posted to The Jerusalem Post indicating she is from Los Angeles... but not much else.

Now, I've been accused of being a lot of things since I started keeping this journal, but disrespectful, careless, frivolous and irreverent are not among them! In fact, just the other day I was telling Zahava how fortunate I am that the discussions here at treppenwitz are remarkably respectful and free of the kind of ugly behavior found elsewhere on the web. I mean, Jebus Kripes, I even use those hokey characters above the number keys instead of writing out real swear words! I actually think 'Leave it to Beaver' had more profanity than treppenwitz!!!

I know now that it was a mistake, but I ended up sending an e-mail to this delicately balanced flower asking her to indicate exactly what I had done to offend her sensibilities. I suppose this is a case of 'be careful what you wish for' because to my dismay, her reply were even more, um, unique than the original:

"On your web-page you refer to everything you have to say as "What is this sh#t" I just don't see this kind of behavior as kosher. If you are going to put yourself out there, representing jewish people, please do it in a respectful manner. The world is always watching us. No matter what we are involved in, the arts, writing, medicine, politics, we are suppose to be the "chosen people" therefore let us show it in our thought process, how we conduct ourselves, remember, "salvation is of the Jews. " we can take that quote anyway we want, but it still remains the same, we are different."

Uh, yeah we're different all right! But wait... she's not done yet kids... she's just warming up:

"My question to you is: why are you in Israel, anyway. One would think that if a family picks up and leaves a secure and safe home, to live in a place where safety is in question, there must be a good reason. Through my investigation, Israel is not doing so good with the care and feeding of their young. The night clubs in Tel Aviv are cess pools[sic] of drug use and live sex shows, the young people feel they need this release from all of their anxiety and the upsetting events takeing[sic] place in Israel today. Again they are going in the wrong direction, (my people parish for lack of knowledge) who are leading these young people in the right direction. There is no one that I can see. (Chabad is trying, but they can't do it all by themselves.) No personable[sic] disrespect to you, but, your web-page is full of silly things and nonsence[sic]. There is nothing about the Gathering and Restoration of Israel. Again, why are you there? Duet.30:1 says, And it shall come to pass, when all of these things have come upon thee, the blessing and the curse, which I have set before thee, and thou shall call them to mind among the nations, whither the Lord thy God has driven thee, and thou shall return unto the Lord thy God and shall obey his voice according to all that I have command this day, thou and thou little ones, with all thine heart and with all thy soul. That then the Lord thy God will turn thy captivity, and have compassion upon thee, and will return and gather thee from all the nations whither the Lord thy God has scattered thee. And if any of thine be driven out unto the outmost parts of heaven, from thence will he fetch thee. And the Lord thy God will bring you into the land which thy fathers possessed, and you shall possess it; and he will do thee good, and multiply thee above thy fathers. (The most important promise) Ezek.28:26 And they shall dwell with confidence, when I have executed Judgements upon all those that despise them round about them; and they shall know that I am the Lord their God.

Israel is in serious trouble with the Arab terrorist, just yesterday two Katyusha Rockets was fired from Lebanon into northern Israel. And I am sure there will be more. Thats[sic] why it is important that every religious Jew be seeking God and his protection, for himself and his little ones. There is no time for silly sayings on the web-pages. This is very serious business , when we reach out to God, with all of our hearts, he will be found and answer us.

So when I come across Jews, most importantly the ones already in Israel, who declare that they are religious, with all the trimmings, but do not show it in their fruits, I can't help but, become angry".

Ah yes... welcome to life in the store window folks. Having a blog or journal is not all glamour and adulation, I can assure you. You readers get to see the polite folks who leave thoughtful comments here. I get to sift through what passes for therapy in some circles.

I have to admit that after the long string of Bible quotes (especially ending with the bit from Ezekiel) I was half expecting her to pull out her 44 Magnum and blow me away like Samuel L. Jackson's righteous hit man in 'Pulp Fiction'.

All I can say, dear readers, is that if I ever write anything that offends you (within reasonable standards), or if I’m ever rude or thoughtless in replying to your comments (assuming you have not behaved like a complete troll), I really need you to bring these things to my attention.

That is all.


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Okay...maybe I should read this over a 2nd and 3rd time. And then comment. And put away my cynism.

I can't help but say that out of a history of tedious experiences, with people behaving like this, there is something very fishy in their own relationship to (their??) faith. Interesting: which translated edition, exactly, is she quoting from?
And isn't it annoying when people can quote you the books up and down, but don't even manage to deliver a single evidence of what exactly they think was making them angry.
Everyone has their opinions; a lot of times, opinions do diverge, and as long as a decent level of reasoning & discussion is maintained, doesn't this make a journal like yours interesting and valuable?

Hint me off if I'm that mistaken.

Posted by: mademoiselle a. | Nov 17, 2004 2:59:30 PM

Mademoiselle a. ... You don't always agree with me or the other people who come here. That makes your comments interesting.

This woman had no interest in sharing ideas... she simply wanted me to know that she thought I had no business writing about anything except what was important to her. She and her creepy ideas about what I should be doing with my journal hold no interest for me whatsoever.

Posted by: David | Nov 17, 2004 3:28:35 PM

You gave her way more space in your blog and attention than she deserved.

I'd rather read what YOU think than a nut like that!

Posted by: val | Nov 17, 2004 3:44:22 PM

Well, who knew it was you who was representing the Jewish people! How lucky for you!

I've had a few nutjobs like this before too, and I find it amusing if nothing else. I find her righteousness laughable since it is YOU who is living in "disputed territory" while she lives in the relatively safe bubble of the US. Her place is not to judge, when you are the one in the front lines.

And if I may say? I am always considering aliyah, and your blog, opinions and views only add to the "pro" side of my list making. So if she thinks you are talking Jews out of making aliyah, she couldn't be more wrong. Your honesty and humour make it that much more appealing.
keep up the good work my friend, and swat those flies away.

Posted by: celestial blue | Nov 17, 2004 4:27:05 PM

(Please forgive any spelling errors or rambling. I'm still half asleep.)

Let me get this straight: you, David, as an observant Jewish American in Israel publically writing on the internet must write only about serious subjects about your adopted land so that the reading public knows that only serious minded people have chosen to relocate to a country that is not considered as safe as the United States. Because frivolity is an affront to G-d and to observant Jews everywhere. Or at least observant Jewish Amercian women in Los Angeles thousands of miles away from said unsafe country whose investigation into life in Israel may be suspect.

Yeah, David, I'm totally offended. How dare you write about your everyday life and your opinions on your blog. And how dare you even suggest that you may be a normal human who occasionally swears when you don't even fully spell out swear words. Don't you know you represent all observant Jewish Americans in Israel? You should be ashamed of yourself.

If she feels so strongly about it, why doesn't she move to Israel and set up her own blog? At least then she won't have to rely on you and be disappointed when you don't write to her standards.

Oh, if she's so offended by your careful use of symbols in swear words, send her over to my blog. Let her see what online swearing is really about.

Posted by: Carol | Nov 17, 2004 4:57:34 PM

what's carol's blog?!!! I'm curious....

Posted by: val | Nov 17, 2004 5:03:19 PM

Can I come up with one more idea, please? -- The only thing you may have to take to your heart could be that you did not supply her with a decent list of where to get a weblog for free.

(I am still puzzling over that person's syntax...)

Posted by: mademoiselle a. | Nov 17, 2004 5:40:48 PM


I wouldn't pay any more attention to her. I resent people trying to tell us what we can or cannot be as Jews.

At my blog (http://wwwjackbenimble.blogspot.com/) how is that for a shameless plug, I am happy to write about anything and everything.

And I certainly do not hide my faith. I am Jewish not just because I was born a Jew but because I want to be.

And part of the beauty of Judaism to me is the tapestry we bring. I have friends of every stripe, Reform, Conservative, MO and the most Torah Observant Jews you can find.

We discuss everything under the sun and often spend hours arguing about it, but we all have enough sense and respect for each other to respectful of other people's POV.

I haven't seen anything here that made me feel like you were denigrating Jews and Judaism or attempting to portray us in a poor light.

She needs to grow up. Or does she consider it good behavior to engage in the kind of dissent that led to the destruction of the Temple.

Keep on doing what you do.

Posted by: Jack | Nov 17, 2004 6:55:19 PM

As you know, I am neither living in Israel or the US, nor am I Jewish. So I am happy that I can speak from a very neutral point. And I totally agree with val. You gave Mrs. "Lady Unknown" more attention than she deserves.

I was thinking about inviting Mrs. Lady Unknown to do some investigations about the country I recently moved to. But I think this is not a good idea (too much sex shows and drugs here).
So let's just ignore her.

PS: Sorry for my bad English. It is always getting terrible when I am in a rage.

Posted by: Sandra | Nov 17, 2004 8:11:34 PM

David, you are NOT the only one.

I've had no fewer than FOUR people or relatives of people I've written about comment or email me to vehemently disagree about something I've written.

For the most part, the contacts were angry and poorly constructed on their part. My favorite was the Australian gentleman and another young Aussie who ganged up on me over my lampooning of a lawsuit by the former. (He tried to sue a TV producer because "Jesus Christ!" was used in a line of a show.) Both of these guys started commenting and emailing me about how anti-christ like I am, how it's because of "people like me" that the world is going to hell, etc etc.

It stung at first, and then the amusement set in. :)

Posted by: Lachlan | Nov 17, 2004 8:26:32 PM

The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides with the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who in the name of charity and good will shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon those with great vengeance and with furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know that my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

Posted by: Jules | Nov 17, 2004 8:44:52 PM

Val... If you look back over my archives you'll notice that most of my posts are about other people places and things... and how they impact me. I don't know for sure what set me off about this lady (G-d knows I've gotten much more offensive e-mail), but if I didn't deal with it in the way that I did, I really think I would have had to stop writing for a little while just to regroup.

Celestial... Yup, the secret's out; I am the ultimate representative of the Jewish people.

In all seriousness, the one thing that this troll said that was correct is that as a visible member of the religious community, I'm sort of obligated to comport myself in a certain manner. I have plenty of friends who send me hilarious cartoons, jokes and photos. Not all of them are 'kid friendly', if you catch my drift. I am often sorely tempted to share them with my readers, but I really feel that it would send an incorrect message about the religious Jewish community if I did. I'll even admit to using most of the words that I routinely redact here on treppenwitz... but again, it would be inappropriate for me to do an Andrew Dice Clay impersonation here. So, in a way she got her wish because she forced me to own up to being somewhat less 'nice' than I probably appear to many of my readers.

Carol... If my site sent her off on the kind of tirade you saw here today, I think your potty mouth would send her over the edge (not that she had so far to go).

Val... just click on Carol's name and you will be magically transported to her wonderful site.

Mademoiselle a. ... I never got the chance. After my e-mail drew such a response I broke off all contact. This is someone who is more comfortable tearing things down than building something of her own.

Jack... plug away. In fact I would like to take this opportunity to put in a word or two about Jack's blog myself (you can use any or all of them on your first book jacket):

"I've read a lot of blogs and Jack's is certainly one of them!"

"It has been a pressure and an obligation to read Jack's blog!"

"Jack's blog loads as well or better than any site I've visited!"

"Not one, but two columns packed with information!"

"Jack: Keeping dieters safe from junk food since 2004."

See, you can always count on a little good press over here... don't thank me - I'm a giver! :-)

Seriously though, I appreciate the sentiment. I felt the same way, but I like hearing it from somebody else... sort of a reality check.

Sandra... Please don't apologize! If I could speak German as well as you speak English, I could maybe get a little uppity. As I've mentioned to another German who comments here, I actually enjoy reading the different accents. Once people have commented a couple of times I actually assign a voice to them. This helps me get a better understanding of their comment (part of the whole ADD thing, don't ask). Anyway, see what I wrote to Val for my reply to your point about giving the crazy lady too much space.

Lachlan... That's funny considering the post I put up yesterday about mission statements. If these idiots had bothered to ready yours ("Daily iniquity since 1974") they would have known they were dealing with operator of the express elevator to hell! People miss so much by not reading the fine print!!! :-)

Jules... THANK YOU!!! I was too rushed and angry to go looking for the actual speech from the movie. But you have to admit, she wasn't that far off!

Posted by: David | Nov 17, 2004 8:48:48 PM

Hey Now David,

That was some great press. As I search for the path back to the derech I'll smile and remember it fondly. ;)

Posted by: Jack | Nov 17, 2004 9:44:45 PM

Dave, sometimes you just gotta take a deep breath...and click DELETE

Posted by: psychotoddler | Nov 17, 2004 10:23:41 PM

well, celestial blue and carol said what I wanted to say . . . and then you wrote that maybe the email upset you because it forced you to look at ways in which you DO feel you represent other jews, so I can't ask you about that . . . so, all I have to say is "ditto," and also, come to think of it, that this lady's email proves once again that "it's not what you say, it is how you say it." Because, really, I bet you agree with a lot of what she wrote - just not the condescending, ungrammatical, knee-jerk, hypocritical WAY she wrote it.

Gotta love an L.A. Jew who wonders why YOU are in Israel when YOU haven't made aliyah for HER reasons. Hypocrite. Now I'm in a bad mood!

[Dave! Your blog put me in a bad mood! What a chillul Hashem! It's all your fault! Why don't you write about me and my poor hurt feelings on your blog, so I won't have to spend time writing my own blog? Oh, yeah, I *do* spend time writing my own blog. OK, scratch that last thing.]

Rock on, dude. :-)

Posted by: Sarah | Nov 17, 2004 11:29:18 PM

BTW, David, because I'm in a nitpicky mood, you missed one [sic]:

(my people parish for lack of knowledge)

Shouldn't that be, "my people perish for lack of knowledge"? Or is she actually a Christian minister with a parish of her own that lacks knowledge?

Also, thank you for the kind words. *mwah!* And I'm considered the clean-mouthed kid of my family. Scary, no?

Lastly, if you ever want to send some of those non-kid-friendly jokes, cartoons, etc. my way, feel free!

Posted by: Carol | Nov 18, 2004 3:26:08 AM

First of all, I am not sure this woman is Jewish. She could be a fundamentalist nut job, someone like John Ashcroft or George Bush.
On the other hand, I think she made some good points. In fact, I tend to think you are a c*^%^%$%# and a dumb a#$%@ when you are not too busy ##%#Q$%%^#$#^
with your #$%$$# in a $^%$%^. So go %($^#(#.


Posted by: Jordan | Nov 18, 2004 3:36:01 AM

I agree with Samuel L.

I just got criticised for not swearing *properly* (ie with letters instead of %&$##s) on my blog! You can't please all of the people etc...

Posted by: Alice | Nov 18, 2004 4:34:23 AM

From the non-Jewish guy....you seem to be doing a pretty good job of being Jewish to me. I read you blog and get the idea that Jewish people care about family and security. But then again..what do I know....you came across as being really apologetic in the end. That was nice of you.

Posted by: jason | Nov 18, 2004 8:28:57 AM

Yikes! I see that either there was nothing interesting on TV last night or a lot of you share a serious insomnia problem. OK, lessee what we have here:

Jack... No problem. always glad to help a fellow seeker.

Psychotoddler... First of all welcome! My wife and I have been keeping tabs on you from afar, but I'm pleased and proud that you stopped by to say hello. As far as just hitting delete goes... that's what I often do. The problem is that when one of these idiots gets under your skin, the delete button cleans your inbox but not your mind. I worry too much about what other people think of me, and I try very hard to be honest about my opinions here. But when someone calls me out on a range of issues... some just a little too close to home for comfort... I don't sleep well.

Sarah... Some times 'ditto' is all you need to say. Peace out.

Carol... Oh no, there are at least three more spelling problems... a couple more malapropisms... and a host of questionable grammatical choices. I just pointed out a few so people wouldn't think I had transcribed her e-mail incorrectly. As to forwarding jokes, I'll try to remember to put you on my 'no morals whatsoever' list.

Jordan... "The chair recognizes the gentleman from New Jersey!" Well said, sir... well said!

Alice... Even though you're a Brit by birth, people see you as a Texan now. With that title come a host of responsibilities: First among them is that you need to swear properly. Also, you need to wear freakishly large belt buckles and dance while keeping both hands on said belt buckle. You need to wear cowboy boots/hats with EVERYTHING (even evening ) and you must drink Lone Star beer from long neck bottles to the exclusion of all other beverages. I'm sure there are other expectations I've left out, but that should keep you from coming under too much criticism. :-)

Posted by: David | Nov 18, 2004 8:41:01 AM

Jason... Let's not forget that from your vantage point over there in Iraq, most Episcopalians probably seem pretty Jewish! Thanks for the compliment, though.

Posted by: David | Nov 18, 2004 8:55:10 AM

Yeah, I saw most of those, too. It's just that one grabbed my eye and yanked hard. (And don't think that didn't hurt.) Just using the word "parish" instead of "perish" seemed to hold a bit of irony.

I'll have you know I'm very moral. Harumph! Just, well, not Christian Coalition moral. Considering I'm a borderline Wiccan/Buddist/Don't-Know-What-All, I suppose that's to be expected.

*rubs hands in anticipation of naughty e-mails*

Posted by: Carol | Nov 18, 2004 9:37:27 AM

All I can say is lucky that this woman has never read my blog!

Posted by: Dave | Nov 18, 2004 10:36:45 AM

Dave... I'm sure somewhere in Melbourne or Sydney is this woman's spiritual twin... and she's probably drawing a bead on you as we speak! :-)

Al TIftach Peh L'Satan (don't open your mouth to the devil)

Posted by: David | Nov 18, 2004 10:44:06 AM

Did anyone else think that her email was funny? I mean, first I thought it was bizzare. (Actually first I thought, Oh no! She's in LA. Is she one of my patients?) But on second read, you've got to admit there are some (albeit unintentionally) funny parts. By the time I got to "but do not show it in their fruits" I giggled. Come on, David, show it in your fruits, or she'll email you again!

In all seriousness, the disorganization of thought, the problems with language, and maybe the hyper-religiousness all point to a possible thought disorder. Don't fret about her email. Worry about whether she can afford a good psychiatrist. Her email is funny. Her life is probably tragic.

Carol: Don't compare her to Bush and Ashcroft! That's not cool. You may not like them (I do!) but they're not psychotic cranks.

Posted by: Doctor Bean | Nov 19, 2004 5:14:11 AM

Dr. Bean... Do you mean funny 'ha ha'? Did it 'amuse' you? Honestly, the e-mail scared me more than anything.

Posted by: David | Nov 19, 2004 10:42:31 AM

Yeah, funny "ha ha", though obviously that was not her intent. How can she scare you? She's here and you're there. The phrases are so awkward, I thought they were amusing.

Oh, oh. Maybe I need a psychiatrist too....

Shabbat shalom.

Posted by: Doctor Bean | Nov 19, 2004 10:52:29 AM

Well this is interesting... A Jewish Bogner getting flamed for not being Jewish-enough; and I'm a Catholic Bogner who's been flamed for not being Catholic-enough. Small world, huh?

More than once I've told people who comment on my blog that if they can't do so in a charitable and civil manner, then don't bother. If people disagree with me, that's fine. I don't typically get private emails about what I write - people go straight for th epublic comments. And it's fine to express disagreement, but it's not fine to denigrate.

Posted by: Steve Bogner | Nov 19, 2004 2:37:37 PM

Steve... Welcome aboard! Nice to know that my experience is not unique. I have a theory why the crazies (usually) tend to send me e-mail rather than comment where everyone can read what they have to say. I think that deep down they know they are being irrational and they are counting on me being too nice to 'out' them as crazies. This one lost that bet.

Stop by anytime!

Posted by: David | Nov 19, 2004 3:10:21 PM

Interesting - my reaction to this woman was that she is probably a philosemitic Christian evangelist, who believes that allJews should come to live in an idealized Israeli Jewish paradise, faithful to Torah. After years of speaking with religious Christians, I did not find her missive all that nutty - just a tad confused. Such people do not need to be mocked. Just accept their support and concern, and move on.

Posted by: russ | Nov 19, 2004 3:20:06 PM

Russ... Point taken. Late in the discussion somebody suggested that she might not be Jewish, and I began to look at her e-mails from a different angle. Yes, I still think she is a couple of fries short of a happy meal, but I am starting to feel a little bad about shining the spotlight on her. Now it seems a little like making fun of the slow kid on the playground.

Posted by: David | Nov 19, 2004 3:45:32 PM

Nah. She's a religious Jew. Otherwise when she chides you for not being a good enough example, why would she say "we are suppose to be the 'chosen people'"? She would have said "you" not "we".

Now I feel bad that I laughed.

Let me try to redeem myself. This is meant seriously.

Dear Ma'am who emailed David:
Your writing reads to me like the writing of some of my patients I've had. It may have just been that you were very angry when you wrote it, so you weren't very careful and that the rest of the time your writing isn't like this. May I with humility and concern suggest that if you've been more sad than happy for many weeks, or if you see or hear things that other people don't see or hear, or if you believe that public things like the TV or the internet have secret private messages just for you, please see your doctor and report to him these symptoms.

Posted by: Doctor Bean | Nov 19, 2004 4:31:56 PM

Doctor Bean, I don't believe that I compared the woman to Bush or Ashcroft in any of my replies. My "not Christian Coalition moral" comment was a response to one of David's comments and had nothing to do with the subject of his entry.

You are right, it wouldn't be cool to make that kind of comparison, but that's because I think happen to think Bush and Ashcroft are psychotic cranks of an entirely different stripe, so that wouldn't be fair to David's correspondant. However, that's an entirely different discussion and doesn't pertain to any of the comments for this entry.

Posted by: Carol | Nov 19, 2004 8:42:40 PM

Is it any better if she is not Jewish? To me it is bad anyway that you look at it.


Since you didn't use her name or anything else that makes it easy to identify her I wouldn't feel badly.

Sometimes discussions like this are a healthy learning experience for all of the parties that are involved in them.

Posted by: Jack | Nov 19, 2004 8:47:02 PM

Carol & Dr. Bean... Don't make me pull this journal over!!! Play nice!!! :-)

Jack.. It sort of does matter to me whether she is Jewish or not. There is a social taboo against making fun of the crazy people out there... unless of course they or 'one of our crazies'. Each ethnic / religious group has its share of oddballs, and for some reason we feel less guilty about lampooning them. I'm not saying it's right... just stating the facts on the ground. When it became quite possible that she was somebody else's crazy, I suddenly felt a little guilty about holding her up to scorn.

Posted by: David | Nov 20, 2004 6:10:37 PM

Yes, David. I promise I'll be good.

Though when I'm bad I'm sooo much better. :D

Posted by: Carol | Nov 21, 2004 12:58:31 AM

[whining insufferably from the back seat of the journal]
Buuuut Daviiiid, Carol started it, and anywayyyy our side won the election!

OK. I'll keep my crazy-right-wing opinions on my blog. [hangs head in shame]

Posted by: Doctor Bean | Nov 21, 2004 5:13:33 AM


I got an email from the same woman. She labelled my writings "filthy" and I actually wrote back to her to ask what had offended - she came back with similar stuff to that which she appears to have written to you. In the end I told her that if Aliyah is so important to her, she should be in put up or shut up - I gave her the contact details of the Shaliach in LA.

Hope all is well and thanks for your good wishes,


Posted by: Gil Ben Mori | Nov 22, 2004 12:24:07 PM

What're the chances that I would run across your blog when I was doing a google search on "how many swear words are in Pulp Fiction"?

Small, small internet...

Posted by: Tina | Dec 3, 2004 6:02:23 AM

De-lurking to say, too bad I no longer live in Israel, I sometimes have a very profane mouth, it might shock her into oblivion.

People's lack of self-respect and respect for others never ceases to amaze me.

(Came via Lisa this time.)

Posted by: Lioness | May 4, 2005 10:18:05 PM

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