Comments on A Deliberate OversimplificationTypePad2014-07-28T03:43:27ZDavid Bognerhttps://www.treppenwitz.com/tag:typepad.com,2003:https://www.treppenwitz.com/2014/07/oversimplification/comments/atom.xml/Jeff commented on 'A Deliberate Oversimplification'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef01a3fd3c5f97970b2014-07-30T02:15:31Z2014-08-05T11:35:45ZJeffWhile I agree with you on most of your points, I have some reservations on the idea that this is...<p>While I agree with you on most of your points, I have some reservations on the idea that this is your own battle which is no concern of ours. You are adults and don't need any help or advice. Nor do our interests count. It's your problem.</p>
<p>Would there then be any problem should the US decide that it no longer had any responsibility for supporting Israel in any way? No responsibility to supply arms or sell them. No responsibility in international fora.</p>
<p>The US is the US and Israel is Israel and we agree to simply go our own ways?</p>
<p>If the US were to decide--rightly or wrongly--that the price of being Israel's ally and protector was too high a price to pay for the undoubted advantages, who would be hurt more? The US or Israel?</p>
<p>Could Israel long survive without any friends?</p>
<p>If Israel were to conclude that it could not, then it seems to me that the US must be able to tell Israel when it thinks the damage to its own international interests by Israel's actions are too high and exert the requisite pressure--call in the chips--when it concluded it must.</p>
<p>Again, I don't propose that it would be RIGHT to do so at this time. I agree with your sentiments about Israel defending itself and acting with great restraint, etc etc.</p>
<p>But if it came down to the terrible question of which was more of a threat to Israel's existence--the threat from Hamas rockets and tunnels or friendlessness on the world stage and unearned paraiahhood--which would be the best choice?</p>chairwoman commented on 'A Deliberate Oversimplification'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef01a73df6cc1d970d2014-07-29T09:17:11Z2014-07-29T09:17:11ZchairwomanAbsolute solidarity with everything you've said, David. Unfriending long-known friends on facebook on a daily basis. Wish we hadn't changed...<p>Absolute solidarity with everything you've said, David. Unfriending long-known friends on facebook on a daily basis. Wish we hadn't changed our minds in 1988 and had made Aliyah. My thoughts with you, Zahava and your family.<br />
</p>Rich commented on 'A Deliberate Oversimplification'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef01a3fd3bafd1970b2014-07-29T02:48:12Z2014-07-29T02:48:12ZRichI agree with your analogy, with your message, but I think that if you are attributing the motivation to "Paternalism,"...<p>I agree with your analogy, with your message, but I think that if you are attributing the motivation to "Paternalism," you are being far too generous. PsychoToddler comes closest to the truth, but leaves out the essence, which is that this comes back to simple anti-Judaism. The idea that Palestinian suffering is somehow an echo of Christ's suffering, and that Christianity has superseded Judaism is part of the theological underpinning of American Liberal Christianity's support for BDS. This is the base Obama's administration plays to. I need to make Aliyah, here I no longer have anyone I can vote for with a clear conscience.</p>Avi commented on 'A Deliberate Oversimplification'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef01a511eb631b970c2014-07-29T00:14:08Z2014-07-29T00:14:08ZAviNicely done. Can I quote you on that?<p>Nicely done. Can I quote you on that?</p>Chantal commented on 'A Deliberate Oversimplification'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef01a73df65cee970d2014-07-28T17:26:48Z2014-07-28T17:26:48ZChantalWell said.<p>Well said.</p>ED commented on 'A Deliberate Oversimplification'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef01a73df6060f970d2014-07-28T15:42:01Z2014-07-28T15:42:01ZEDI`m more concerned with Israel cordinating policy with Egypt,than anything the US says or does. One thing that can be...<p>I`m more concerned with Israel cordinating policy with Egypt,than anything the US says or does. One thing that can be counted on is that Hamas will break agreements,and Israeli vigilance is needed at all times. </p>SaraK commented on 'A Deliberate Oversimplification'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef01a511ea71ab970c2014-07-28T14:25:25Z2014-07-28T14:25:25ZSaraKAPPLAUSE!! APPLAUSE!! Agree 100%<p>APPLAUSE!! APPLAUSE!! Agree 100%</p>psachya commented on 'A Deliberate Oversimplification'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef01a511ea62d3970c2014-07-28T13:00:36Z2014-07-28T13:00:36ZpsachyaNever mind Israel's enemies. It would be nice if the US and other international nags even attempted to hold themselves...<p>Never mind Israel's enemies. It would be nice if the US and other international nags even attempted to hold themselves to the same wartime standards Israel already practices, let alone what they demand from Israel. How careful is President Obama about "collateral damage" every time he sends out a missile to wipe out one of his enemies? What are the records of civilian casualties in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, or any of the other conflicts the "good guys" have been involved with? The hypocrisy is staggering.</p>Erica commented on 'A Deliberate Oversimplification'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef01a3fd3abf45970b2014-07-28T12:18:29Z2014-07-28T12:18:29ZEricaAmen, brother. I am deeply ashamed and horrified by the diplomatic tomfoolery of this administration, not to mention, its poor...<p>Amen, brother. I am deeply ashamed and horrified by the diplomatic tomfoolery of this administration, not to mention, its poor show of support for Israel, in general. Here's hoping the Israeli military grounds Hamas into powder once and for all.</p>Psychotoddle commented on 'A Deliberate Oversimplification'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef01a73df5aa12970d2014-07-28T12:07:22Z2014-07-28T12:07:22ZPsychotoddleIt's because they operate under the premise that Israel deserves to be terrorized. "You took his cookie so he hit...<p>It's because they operate under the premise that Israel deserves to be terrorized. "You took his cookie so he hit you." </p>Beth commented on 'A Deliberate Oversimplification'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef01a511ea5783970c2014-07-28T11:57:01Z2014-07-28T11:57:01ZBethhttp://2badmoms.blogspot.com/Agree!! And am more than ashamed and embarrassed by this administration.<p>Agree!! And am more than ashamed and embarrassed by this administration. </p>dmpawley commented on 'A Deliberate Oversimplification'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef01a73df5a8ed970d2014-07-28T11:55:39Z2014-07-28T11:55:39ZdmpawleyDavid, While I do not understand the conflict(s) of the Levant, I wholeheartedly agree with your setiment. The US should...<p>David,</p>
<p>While I do not understand the conflict(s) of the Levant, I wholeheartedly agree with your setiment. The US should mind its own business and take care of its own people. The US used to be on the path to greatness, but not it's just an embarrassment.</p>
<p>What every person wants, deep down, is peace and liberty. The ability to feel secure in one's own environment and to be happy doing what people do. I wish this for you and your family and to those around you.</p>Elisson commented on 'A Deliberate Oversimplification'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef01a511ea4bdb970c2014-07-28T10:00:16Z2014-07-28T10:00:16ZElissonhttp://cheeseaisle.blogspot.comBravo!<p>Bravo!</p>Sarah B. commented on 'A Deliberate Oversimplification'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef01a73df59ec5970d2014-07-28T09:56:51Z2014-07-28T09:56:51ZSarah B.Agree.<p>Agree.</p>Quietusleo commented on 'A Deliberate Oversimplification'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef01a3fd3ab092970b2014-07-28T09:54:03Z2014-07-28T09:54:03ZQuietusleo http://quietusleo.blogspot.comAgree with every word.<p>Agree with every word. </p>