Comments on Win. Win. Win!TypePad2010-10-31T14:45:34ZDavid Bognerhttps://www.treppenwitz.com/tag:typepad.com,2003:https://www.treppenwitz.com/2010/11/win_win_win/comments/atom.xml/Nachum commented on 'Win. Win. Win!'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef0133f5856dc8970b2010-11-02T08:34:22Z2010-11-02T08:34:22ZNachumIt's not a magic eight ball, Trip. Under federal law at the time he was sentenced, those sentenced to life...<p>It's not a magic eight ball, Trip. Under federal law at the time he was sentenced, those sentenced to life are automatically paroled after thirty years if they behave. That will be in 2015 for Pollard. He's out then. (He's never applied for parole, which could have gotten him out much earlier, although I see his point, to an extent, as he most likely would have been turned down.)</p>Rami commented on 'Win. Win. Win!'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef013488a2cadd970c2010-11-01T21:36:39Z2010-11-01T21:36:39ZRamiWhat if the Obama administration responded by offering more political and military "incentives" instead? The ball would shift to the...<p>What if the Obama administration responded by offering more political and military "incentives" instead? The ball would shift to the PM, with Kadima offering support where the "right decision" is made to save the negotiations. </p>treppenwitz commented on 'Win. Win. Win!'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef0134889fc156970c2010-11-01T12:02:54Z2010-11-01T12:02:54Ztreppenwitzhttp://www.treppenwitz.comIlana-Davitata ... Look him up on wikipedia. It's an eye-opener. Chana ... Sadly, people who are most in need of...<p>Ilana-Davitata ... Look him up on wikipedia. It's an eye-opener.</p>
<p>Chana ... Sadly, people who are most in need of good ideas are well insulated from them by layers upon layers of staff.</p>
<p>chairwoman ... I can't answer the 1st part of the question, but 'to get re-elected' comes to mind as a possible answer to the second one.</p>
<p>Noah Roth... I've seen that movie before. You know what? The US has twisted Israel's arm more than once to release actual mass murderers! I'm sorry, but there is nothing Pollard could have done that comes close to that level of evil. And if the U.S. really felt that Pollard had to be locked up for life, they had no business entering into a plea bargain with him (which the U.S. promptly violated).</p>
<p>Nachum... My magic eight ball isn't working today... so I'm pleased to hear that yours is.</p>
<p>aparatchik... Everything about our entire negotiating position broadcasts to the world and our enemies that we are not confident in the rightousness of our position.</p>
<p>LeahGG ... As if fighting wars in Iraq and Afghanistan doesn't already do that?</p>LeahGG commented on 'Win. Win. Win!'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef0133f57f3e34970b2010-11-01T11:10:25Z2010-11-01T11:10:25ZLeahGGhttp://trilcat.blogspot.comI think it would be an interesting tactical move. At the very least, it would make America look a little...<p>I think it would be an interesting tactical move. At the very least, it would make America look a little less pro-peace.</p>LeahGG commented on 'Win. Win. Win!'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef0133f57f3e30970b2010-11-01T11:10:24Z2010-11-01T11:10:24ZLeahGGhttp://trilcat.blogspot.comI think it would be an interesting tactical move. At the very least, it would make America look a little...<p>I think it would be an interesting tactical move. At the very least, it would make America look a little less pro-peace.</p>aparatchik commented on 'Win. Win. Win!'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef0134889f8172970c2010-11-01T11:10:00Z2010-11-01T11:10:00ZaparatchikIsrael is always making massive concessions for the life of one Jew - or even a dead body to bury....<p>Israel is always making massive concessions for the life of one Jew - or even a dead body to bury.</p>
<p>Why doesn't Israel simply demand a reciprocal freeze on the Pal side? The recent one-sided freeze was a tacit admission that Jews have no right to live in Judea/Samaria.</p>Nachum commented on 'Win. Win. Win!'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef0133f57f38ce970b2010-11-01T11:04:58Z2010-11-01T11:04:58ZNachumMaybe because Pollard will be out of jail in just over five years, he should live and be well?<p>Maybe because Pollard will be out of jail in just over five years, he should live and be well?</p>Noah Roth commented on 'Win. Win. Win!'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef0133f57edfed970b2010-11-01T09:33:27Z2010-11-01T09:33:27ZNoah RothJohn McCain who is generally very pro-Israel, and also military minded, said on the record during his 2008 Presidential campaign...<p>John McCain who is generally very pro-Israel, and also military minded, said on the record during his 2008 Presidential campaign that if everyone had seen the classified information he had seen about Pollard as the chairman of the Senate Armed Services committee, all would agree he should never be released. I have no idea what that classified information is, but McCain is a rabidly pro-Israel politician who had no need to make this statement, especially unprovoked in the midst of a Presidential election. This is far from conclusive, but is worth bearing in mind.</p>
<p>However, combined with the fact that now Israeli government has ever put any serious pressure (or even request) for the commute of Pollard's sentence or his release, and until fairly recently denied he was even dispatched by the Mossad, it stands to reason that there is some tacit agreement not to push this issue.</p>
<p>It is also plausible that successive Israeli governments have decided that while Pollard's sentence is a hot-button issue among Israelis and American Jews, it is a non-story to most of the American electorate, and a request for his release would effectively "create" a story about an anti-American Israeli spy, undermining the public perception that Israel is an ally.</p>
<p>Whatever the reason, I think the inaction by governments right and left, make it clear that Israel has made a strategic decision not to push this issue. I don't believe that Jonathan Pollard will ever be freed, nor that any amount of public pressure will change that.</p>chairwoman commented on 'Win. Win. Win!'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef0134889f0c99970c2010-11-01T09:04:13Z2010-11-01T09:04:13Zchairwomanhttp://www.chairwoman-of-the-bored.blogspot.comDavid, why on earth would you imagine that a, no, any politician would take actions that would both make good...<p>David, why on earth would you imagine that a, no, <i>any</i> politician would take actions that would both make good sense and please his/her electorate?</p>Chana commented on 'Win. Win. Win!'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef0134889efa85970c2010-11-01T08:49:39Z2010-11-01T08:49:39ZChanaExcellent, excellent idea. How do we find the PM's email address? Send this to him. Seriously.<p>Excellent, excellent idea. How do we find the PM's email address? Send this to him. Seriously.</p>Ilana-Davitata commented on 'Win. Win. Win!'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef0133f57e4d95970b2010-11-01T07:24:25Z2010-11-01T07:24:25ZIlana-Davitatahttp://ilanadavita.wordpress.com/Because I don't know enough about Jonathan Pollard, I can't comment sensibly but am eager to read what other readers...<p>Because I don't know enough about Jonathan Pollard, I can't comment sensibly but am eager to read what other readers think.</p>