Comments on Time to move over and let someone else drive for awhileTypePad2008-12-09T12:04:08ZDavid Bognerhttps://www.treppenwitz.com/tag:typepad.com,2003:https://www.treppenwitz.com/2008/12/the-driving-axi/comments/atom.xml/triLcat commented on 'Time to move over and let someone else drive for awhile'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef01053656cfe1970c2008-12-10T02:32:40Z2008-12-10T02:32:41ZtriLcathttp://trilcat.blogspot.comLisa - You are absolutely correct. Developing their economy will cause massive upheaval in their social system. They might even...<p>Lisa - You are absolutely correct. Developing their economy will cause massive upheaval in their social system. They might even end up with a leadership that isn't only based on killing Jews.</p>
<p>I think Bibi's statement misses a few steps along the way, but I think it's a reasonable place to start.<br />
</p>Jendeis commented on 'Time to move over and let someone else drive for awhile'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef0105365546d4970c2008-12-09T20:14:19Z2008-12-09T20:14:19ZJendeishttp://sellcrazysomeplaceelse.blogspot.comWould love to learn more about the political system and current political climate in Israel. Any advice/recommendations on books for...<p>Would love to learn more about the political system and current political climate in Israel. Any advice/recommendations on books for the beginner? Thanks!</p>Kae Gregory commented on 'Time to move over and let someone else drive for awhile'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef01053655246e970c2008-12-09T19:22:22Z2008-12-09T19:22:22ZKae GregoryAs expected, you broke that down very well. If only people would spend a few minutes to grasp that concept...<p>As expected, you broke that down very well. If only people would spend a few minutes to grasp that concept before welding themselves to an ideology (right or left). I would also like to see an end to the attitude in Israeli politics that any linkage whatsoever to Judaism - any concept of Jewishness as related to the existance, or continued existance, of the state of Israel as being necessarily a bad thing. </p>Lisa commented on 'Time to move over and let someone else drive for awhile'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef0105364cc4ac970b2008-12-09T19:11:09Z2008-12-09T19:11:09ZLisa"[Bibi] has been saying for some time that the only way to create a viable peace partner is to bolster...<p>"[Bibi] has been saying for some time that the only way to create a viable peace partner is to bolster their economy to the point that they don't need Israel or International aid to survive..."</p>
<p>If only. It has finally dawned on me that economic growth is that LAST thing anyone in the Palestinian leadership wants. If that were to happen they'd have to give up their generous international aid flows and actually have to act like leaders who know how to manage an economy. </p>
<p>More importantly, the Palestinians would lose the claim to victimhood that comes with chronic underdevelopment. As if Israel closes Pali borders to prevent the passage of commerce, not the flight of missiles...</p>Marsha in Englewood commented on 'Time to move over and let someone else drive for awhile'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef0105364c028a970b2008-12-09T17:59:38Z2008-12-09T17:59:38ZMarsha in EnglewoodI think it's high time Trep ran for office. He is articulate and spot on, as the Brits would say....<p>I think it's high time Trep ran for office. He is articulate and spot on, as the Brits would say. I have another concern, however.Please tell me that communication in the Trep household is more than he posts, she responds!</p>Jesse commented on 'Time to move over and let someone else drive for awhile'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef0105364b1ae9970b2008-12-09T16:39:05Z2008-12-09T16:39:06ZJessehttp://slowingdown.wordpress.comWell said as always David. This caught my eye, "Being against the particulars and/or timing of a peace initiative does...<p>Well said as always David. This caught my eye, "Being against the particulars and/or timing of a peace initiative does not make one 'anti-peace'. It means that after a number of identical failures, it is time to try something else..."</p>
<p>Isn't one definition of insanity trying something over and over again hoping for different results?</p>
<p>The way the world, let alone Israel, is going, it's time to try something else, 'cuz what we've been doing just isn't working!</p>QuietusLeo commented on 'Time to move over and let someone else drive for awhile'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef0105364b0dbc970b2008-12-09T16:18:42Z2008-12-09T16:18:43ZQuietusLeohttp://quietusleo.blogspot.comIn the book "17 conversations with Assa Kasher", the good Professor simultaneously answers those who bemoan the lack of a...<p>In the book "17 conversations with Assa Kasher", the good Professor simultaneously answers those who bemoan the lack of a "peace" partner and those who are willing to prostitute themselves for the sake of "peace":</p>
<p>"It's not that we don't have anyone with whom to conduct a dialogue, there is always someone on the other side with whom to speak. The problem is that there is no one who can be trusted."</p>
<p>That's the "peace process" in a nutshell.</p>zahava commented on 'Time to move over and let someone else drive for awhile'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c581e53ef0105364aa62a970b2008-12-09T12:59:04Z2008-12-09T12:59:04ZzahavaWow, honey! I guess great minds really do think alike! I saw the Avshalom Vilan/Meretz quote at the YNET online...<p>Wow, honey! I guess great minds <b><i>really do</b></i> think alike! </p>
<p>I saw the Avshalom Vilan/Meretz quote at the YNET online English edition and got spitting mad!</p>
<p>I am so tired of the venomous rhetoric and am completely disgusted by the polarization of how the various segments of Israeli society are being portrayed in the media – be they theological, political, or ideaological (or any combination of the above).</p>
<p>This business of demonizing and dehumanizing the opposition – I fear it will be the end of us, truly I do. When our own politicians – who are supposed to, after elections, sit down and work <b>together</b> treat the opposition as <b>worse than</b> the guys lobbing rocks/bullets/rockets/missiles at us….<b>[GAH!]</b></p>
<p>And don’t get me started on the media, whose self-promotional interests allow them to both further sensationalize and then print such drivel….</p>
<p>These days, politicians and journalists seem more closely related to the ancient profession of prostitution than pimps….</p>
<p>For the record, Mr. Vilan, people can be pro-peace without agreeing with your method of how to achieve it. Stunning record, by the way, you and your Meretz crones have on getting the rockets to stop falling on the south-western border of Israel…. It might be peaceful where you live, but there is a significant percentage of the population which might disagree not only with your method of achieving peace, but your definition of peace as well…</p>
<p><b>[GAH!]</b> The proximity to today’s news makes me want to take an long hot shower….<br />
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