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Sunday, August 07, 2005
Mirty & Ted's (hopefully) excellent adventure
Any short-list of the most talented writers in the Jewish blogosphere would certainly have to include Mirty. I have been reading with a combination of awe and discomfort the amazing distance and clarity with which she crafts her personal narrative.
Without attempting to tell her story here, suffice it to say that Mirty's discussion of religion, family and marriage follows a trajectory of belonging, disenfranchisement, flight and eventual compromise/rapprochement that should sound at least vaguely familiar to anyone who has ever struggled with issues of faith, love and relationships.
The greatness of Mirty's writing is that even as its honesty sometimes makes me cringe... it also imparts valuable lessons to the reader that were clearly purchased at incredible personal cost to the writer.
Mirty and her husband Ted (not their real names) have been on vacation here in Israel for the past couple of weeks... and Zahava and I jumped at the opportunity to meet them for dinner in Jerusalem this past Thursday evening.
However, by Thursday afternoon it became clear that an unscheduled meeting was going to keep me from leaving work as early as I had planned... and Zahava was also working under a last-minute deadline. So I called Mirty and asked if we could bring them down for a late dinner closer to our home rather than eating in Jerusalem. After a quick consultation with Ted, Mirty graciously acquiesced.
What I didn't know is that Ted and Mirty had sort of agreed that they wouldn't visit any 'settlements' during their trip to Israel. I also didn't realize that Mirty hadn't exactly explained to Ted what 'our area' meant when she had run the change in plans by him.
So... after picking them up in Jerusalem, and driving through the first roadblock on the tunnel road to Gush Etzion, the concrete barricades and coils of barbed 'concertina' wire along the winding road prompted a few tense words to pass between our guests.
I'm sure Mirty didn't set out to deliberately mislead Ted. After all, so much of what I've written about the area where I live has revolved around the relative safety and high quality of life. And for his part, Ted was a very good sport... taking the unscheduled foray into the West Bank with good humor and an open mind. But still... passing the lights and minarets of several Arab villages along the way did cause a few, um, lulls in the conversation.
We stopped in Efrat for a few minutes to pick up Zahava and then headed off to one of my favorite little eateries in the world; Gavna.
To really get a sense of this charming rustic restaurant, you should really read the description of Gavna I wrote after our first visit there last year. But if you're in a hurry, picture a little wooden shack in the middle of the woods... sitting at the end of a looooong winding dirt road... perched on the side of a tall mountain...that has, at most, 20 tables (including the ones outside on the porch and down below in the garden).
To his credit, Ted asked me only once if I knew where we were going as we wound through the woods in total darkness. And Mirty asked Ted only once if he was really 'OK with this' during the bumpy ride through the wooded road. I took it as a good sign that Ted took my 'yes' at face value, and quickly answered Mirty with a 'yes' of his own. :-)
The food at Gavna was every bit as good as i remembered (even if the service was a bit, um, random), and Mirty and Ted turned out to be every bit as delightful in person as one would expect from reading Mirty's blog.
Ted is a funny, soft-spoken man whose looks and mannerisms leave the observer with the distinct impression that you are having dinner with a mellow Mandy Potankin. And other than her slight Texas drawl, Mirty was close enough to what I was expecting that I I instantly forgot what I had thought she would look/sound like.
Mirty and I had the inevitable conversation about some of the bloggers we read (and commenters we enjoy), as well as what we each get out of writing. Thankfully this didn't dominate the evening, though, and the four of us talked easily about everything from politics to family to gadgets.
In an unsolicited gesture, Mirty offered to be photographed (I would have never asked), and even gave me permission to post a picture of her here on treppenwitz.
Now, I know some people enjoy not knowing what their favorite bloggers look like... and others are dying to know. So to be sensitive to both camps I'll offer a workable solution:
Those of you who would prefer to have Mirty remain as she has always been in your mind's eye... you should consider this sentence to be the end of today's entry. Thanks for stopping by.
However, those who (like me) have been dying to know what Mirty really looks like... click the link below (I can't remember if Ted gave his OK on having his picture published... so to avoid hoodwinking misleading him twice, this is just a picture of Mirty & me ).
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Comments
How wonderful that you two bloggers got to meet! And so nice to see a picture of you both.
I hope you and your family are having a great trip, Mirty. I can't wait to go back to Israel.
My cousins live in Betar, Trep. Is that anywhere near you?
And Mirty, you REALLY have a slight Texas drawl. I don't think I could ever lose my midwestern, nasal accent if I tried. I've been in Texas 10 years and still don't say "y'all" and never will!
Glad you two were able to get together. Thanks for letting us feel like we were there, too.
Posted by: Stacey | Aug 7, 2005 4:22:45 PM
Yep,ditto to what Stacey said. Wow, did I really just say that. ;)
Posted by: Jack | Aug 7, 2005 6:12:26 PM
Stacey, oddly enough, Betar is the view that Gavna overlooks! Small world, eh?!
Posted by: zahava | Aug 7, 2005 6:50:58 PM
Very cool that you guys got to meet each other!
Posted by: Essie | Aug 7, 2005 10:42:16 PM
David you just keep getting better! You use words like "trajectory". Very classy ;)
Posted by: Maria | Aug 8, 2005 2:22:09 AM
Sounds like a nice evening. Save me and my wife a spot against that same wall for a picture with you when we visit.
Posted by: Doctor Bean | Aug 8, 2005 6:15:14 AM
Stacey... As Zahava mentioned, Gavna sits on the side of a mountain overlooking the lights of Beitar. This means you guys have absolutely no excuse for not spending some time with us on your next trip to Israel! :-)
Jack... You have cousins in Beitar as well???!!! Wow, what are the odds? :-)
Essie... I suppose it's too much to hope for that you'll be taking a vacation to our part of the world any time soon?
Maria... I'm assuming that you are being sarcastic (since I've used the word 'trajectory' in no less than four posts recently!). :-) What can I say... I find a word I like and I'm loyal to it!
Doctor Bean... Does this mean you have plans in the pipeline, or was that more of a general statement? :-)
Posted by: David | Aug 8, 2005 8:48:06 AM
Nothing definitive unfortunately, but we definitely would like to go in the next year or two.
Posted by: Doctor Bean | Aug 8, 2005 4:02:14 PM
Doctor Bean... As I've said to all my friends who keep waiting for their bank balances to hit some magic number before even beginning to plan a trip: Just come. Keep an eye on the air fares until you see a bargain... get someone to cover your practice /rounds for a week or two... Get on the plane. Forget about expensive rent-a-cars and hotels... I'll pick you guys up at the airport, install you in our guest suite upstairs and give you a bus schedule for anywhere in the country you want to visit. It's really just that simple... stop making it into some kind of a pilgrimage!
Posted by: David | Aug 8, 2005 4:11:29 PM
Wow. That's very sweet of you, but we have four kids and they would dramatically depreciate your lovely home in just a few hours. Let me talk to b-n-c. We haven't seen Israel since we've had kids and we're longing to come back again and show it to them.
Posted by: Doctor Bean | Aug 8, 2005 4:39:49 PM
Which one is Mirty
Just kidding
groan
Sounds like a fun evening. I think it's good that Ted got to see the "West Bank". You should have some familiarity with a subject before you judge it.
Posted by: psychotoddler | Aug 8, 2005 8:51:48 PM
Psychotoddler... I don't think Ted and Mirty decided to avoid Judea and Samaria out of any kind of judgement call. I think people are just a bit afraid based on what they read and hear. In that respect I agree that it is nice that they got to see that my area is no more or less 'safe' than a cafe in Tel Aviv.
Posted by: David | Aug 8, 2005 9:10:49 PM
Ted here ...
Other than reading Mirty's posts, I'm not really much a part of the blogosphere.
On the safety issue -- I'm quite confident that the Israeli army knows what they're doing. It was neat to drive through the bypass tunnel to Gush Etzion and it was probably safer driving there than in Jerusalem. Jerusalem drivers are NUTS!!! I especially got a kick out of seeing the cars driving on the curb. There are even Jerusalem parking signs telling cars to "P" with their wheels on the curb ... sort of like a male dog and a fire hydrant. On the other hand, the dark unlit dirt road leading from David's house to the restaurant really did seem like it was in the middle of nowhere.
Seriously though, Mirty and I would never have driven to Gush Etzion on our own. We get pulled aside at all checkpoints -- who knows what would happen at a checkpoint leading into the territories. Mirty got pulled aside on our way into Israel, and on our way out of Israel, they wanted to know why we visited -- was this our first visit? By the time my kids interjected to explain about their Mom -- my exiwfe, not Mirty -- they wanted to know the "long" version of our story. Sigh. Checkpoints are definately not for Mirty and I!
Sorry, digressing again. Mostly, I'm uncomfortable with the territories because the Palestinians are not, and will never be Israeli citizens. Therefore I'm uncomfortable with the post '67 borders as permanent Israeli borders. But I'm not an Israeli, therefore its really not my business, and I'm educated enough to know that any peace deal will include Gush Etzion as a part of Israel. But I set the borders for my life. Until there is peace, those borders are more or less the Green line, except for the old city. I love the old city.
David and Zehava seem like wonderful people. Dinner was great, and its an experience I never would've had otherwise. No regrets!
- Ted
Posted by: Ted | Aug 8, 2005 10:15:20 PM
David & Zahava, how great that you are so close to Beitar! I would love to meet you both and will take you up on the invitation someday (soon, I hope)!
Posted by: Stacey | Aug 8, 2005 10:24:02 PM
Ted... "Until there is peace, those borders are more or less the Green line, except for the old city. I love the old city." I hope you realize that you have just expressed the same sentiments that are expressed every day by people who you would consider your political opponents. You have basically allowed that your love/connection to the old city of Jerusalem somehow circumvents the logic and rules you have in place for other 'occupied territories'. I am not from the 'not one inch' camp, nor am I comfortable with the 'give them whatever they want so long as it might lead to peace' philosophy. I subscribe to the letter of the 1949 armistice agreement that clearly states that final borders must be negotiated and agreed upon by the participants in the conflict. We'll set aside for the moment that the Palestinian people were not parties to the conflict and technically have no standing in the negotiations to which the armistice agreement refers. Obviously one can't simply pretend that the Palestinian population has no stake in a final agreement over borders. But by the same token, one can't ignore the circumstance by which Israel ended up possessing this territory (including the old city) and the Jewish blood that was forced to be spilled over it. As I said, I am not against adjusting borders and creating new facts on the ground so long as it leads to relative peace. We have done it with Egypt, Jordan and Lebanon on dozens of occasions, so it would be foolish to pretend we can't do it again. The big 'BUT' is whether it will actually lead to a relative peace (or at least a lack of open warfare). So far the Palestinians are unwilling/unable to offer any assurances that Israeli concessions will do anything but whet their appetite for more concessions. Your love of Jerusalem's old city creates special circumstances in your mind for its 'status'. You are not alone in this mindset and might be surprised to know how similar your rationale is to people you had always considered 'right wing'.
Stacey... We will be looking forward to seeing (and hopefully hosting) you.
Posted by: David | Aug 9, 2005 9:16:57 AM
David I wasn't being sarcastic! I like your use of words. Do you know who else uses the word "trajectory" a lot? Bourdieu! I mean a loooot. And HE can write!
Posted by: Maria | Aug 9, 2005 12:28:44 PM
Maria... Thank you. I don't know the person to whom you refer... but I'll take the compliment anyway. :-) Now if only I could express myself in Hebrew as well as you express yourself in any of your growing collection of languages!
Posted by: David | Aug 9, 2005 5:42:17 PM
David,
I think most things I might say about Israeli politics woiuld simply be inappropriate on a whole slew of different levels -- so perhaps I already said too much.
First level -- I am living in Texas, not Israel. On the other hand, I have visited Israel 5 times, and Mirty has tons of relatives there.
Second -- its too complicated. After years of following Israeli politics, I still haven't really processed it all, and I honestly don't know where I stand or what is best.
Regarding the Old City, yes, you are correct that my boundaries are inconsistent. During this trip we avoided the Arab quarter, but the guided tour I went on over New Year's 2000 included Bethlehem, Jericho, and even the inside of the Mosque on the Temple Mount. At the time, everyone was hopeful that peace was just around the corner.
Finally, what is most important is people. And our dinner with you and Zahava was certainly a memorable highlight in a wonderful trip overseas. Best wishes to you and your family.
- Ted
Posted by: ted | Aug 9, 2005 6:10:53 PM












